I’m not responsible!

[bigsky]

Alec Baldwin is 100% responsible. His glib denial of responsibility was more than enough to send him to prison. He pulled the hammer back and pointed it at the woman. And, it’s his movie, “Mr Producer.” His interview really raised my hackles.

He shot a woman dead.

The info is out now. It was a crappy replica of a Colt single action. I think about how I carry only 5 in my high quality wheelguns and the hammer is always on an empty chamber. How I’d never point a gun at anyone I didn’t intend to shoot! How I would really never pull the hammer back on a loaded revolver without either firing or pointing it at the ground to release it.

And how any combo of not doing what I was taught and in the habit of would make me feel responsible.

[dan_bgblue]

Someone else is always responsible.

I have owned a firearm since I was 14 years old, and I have never fired one of them that I did not load myself, nor do I ever intend to do so. It is irresponsible to point a gun at something and squeeze the trigger unless one in 100% sure of what will happen when the weapon goes boom.

[bigsky]

Dan, he said he didn’t pull the trigger, but he also said he pulled the hammer back. And, obviously, it was pointed at the woman. The interview is just…nauseating

[suncat05]

Let's just call it exactly what it is.........just like a prison convict, or a D.C. politician.........if his lips are moving, he's LYING!

He probably did not intend to hurt her in any way, but the manner with which he handled himself and that handgun are at the least grossly irresponsible, and reprehensible. And I still have questions about the armorer on the movie set as well, and exactly what her part in this may have been in relation to this tragedy.

[blueboss]

There is absolutely no circumstance which should allow live ammo on a movie set where people that are not fully trained in the handling of firearms are handling them.

Baldwin is a liar…


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[CitizenBBN]

The whole thing is a sad, tragic joke.

First, there was live ammo on a movie set where clearly that would be extremely dangerous.

They were using guns that, even as replicas, are real guns, not rigged to be non-firing, which is an available option for that use. They didn't even need real guns, at least not in all circumstances.

Everyone involved in this chain of custody seemed to be completely glib about it, leaving guns out during lunch breaks, the one guy grabbing it and declaring it safe despite not really knowing, and then finally Baldwin who never checked the gun either.

Now he says a prop guy told him when he got started to not do that, it was the prop guy's job, and maybe that's the way it's supposed to be, but me personally I would NEVER EVER handle a gun given to me without checking it for myself. I want to know if it's loaded and how, etc.

I'm going to be really curious to find out if it's true that they were using these guns interchangeably with live ammo for target shooting etc. during off hours. That's grossly irresponsible.

Baldwin may not be charged depending on the circumstances and the industry norms for actors checking weapons given to them, but as a producer and the actor who fired the gun he's in for a whopping wrongful death lawsuit.

[Doc]

It would not shock me if he (Baldwin) was set up. As big a turd as he is, what better method to get him than slip some live ammo in. I am not saying that happened, only that it would not shock me, or even surprise me

[CitizenBBN]

It would not shock me if he (Baldwin) was set up. As big a turd as he is, what better method to get him than slip some live ammo in. I am not saying that happened, only that it would not shock me, or even surprise me

I've followed this case some just b/c of the gun angle, and apparently there were a lot of disgruntled employees involved in the production. Just the day before or day of the incident the subcontracted film crew walked off over issues with providing hotel rooms during the shoot.

Could one of them have slipped live ammo into the mix? Sounds like things may have been a bit lax and if so that would be doable.

Then there is the angle that they were using these guns off hours for target shooting. Another easy way for ammo to get mixed.

The latter seems the most likely, that they were just using the guns inappropriately and were careless and got things mixed up, but the former is I'm sure being investigated.

[blueboss]

There are two facts in the case 1) Baldwin pointed the gun at the the woman who was shot. 2) Baldwin pulled the trigger.

The only mysteries are the who and the why live ammo ended up loaded into a prop gun, and how did Baldwin get the gun.


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