Senate advances Biden's $1T infrastructure bill in rare Saturday session

[dan_bgblue]

It has not passed yet, but the 2 KY senators voted for passage during the test vote. I do not understand exactly what the hell they are doing, but if/when they actually vote, it better not be a vote to get any closer to passage of Sleepy's 4.5 trillion social give away spending spree.

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[KentuckyWildcat]

it better not be a vote to get any closer to passage of Sleepy's 4.5 trillion social give away spending spree.

It will be. They often have some flex money built in. I'm all for it. Just need a few more kids so I can retire.



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[Doc]

$1,000,000,000,000 ...or which is roughly $2,800 for EVERY man, woman and child in this nation. For a family of 4 that is over 11,000 in additional taxes. Any moron who thinks this will be covered by the rich, those not paying their fair share, is beyond ignorant. Keep in mind, this is in addition to the 26,000,000,000,000 we already are in the red.

PS..did any FL senators vote for it? I hope not because I sure as **** won't vote for them if they do

[Doc]

Chuck Schumer ""We can get this done the easy way or the hard way.,In either case, the Senate will stay in session until we finish our work."

Republicans with any balls should follow the path laid by Texas democrats, and go on walkabout to prevent passage

[KeithKSR]

Pelosi has vowed not to take this bill up until the liberal wish list fake infrastructure bill passes the Senate. I don’t see that one passing. I don’t know if she is overplaying her hand or intentionally sabotaging the far left wish list.

[KeithKSR]

It has not passed yet, but the 2 KY senators voted for passage during the test vote. I do not understand exactly what the hell they are doing, but if/when they actually vote, it better not be a vote to get any closer to passage of Sleepy's 4.5 trillion social give away spending spree.

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Rand Paul didn’t vote to advance the bill. The next step is the amendment step.

[bigsky]

Thanks to my friend Senator Steve Daines for voting no

[KentuckyWildcat]

$1,000,000,000,000 ...or which is roughly $280,000 for EVERY man, woman and child in this nation. For a family of 4 that is over ONE MILLION DOLLARS in additional taxes. Any moron who thinks this will be covered by the rich, those not paying their fair share, is beyond ignorant. Keep in mind, this is in addition to the 26,000,000,000,000 we already are in the red.

PS..did any FL senators vote for it? I hope not because I sure as **** won't vote for them if they do

1 trillion divided by 350 million people would be $2800 per person.

But to your point, I am not fan of this.

[Doc]

1 trillion divided by 350 million people would be $2800 per person.

But to your point, I am not fan of this.

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[KeithKSR]

1 trillion divided by 350 million people would be $2800 per person.

But to your point, I am not fan of this.

The $2800 goes way up when you divide the trillion by the number who pay taxes.

[catmanjack]

Correct only 54% of Americans pay taxes.

[KentuckyWildcat]

Don't worry. We will get it back after the 17th stimulus.

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[CitizenBBN]

I'm very curious if the zoning language will be snuck into this one or if the GOP can spot it and take it out. I'm sure it's in the $3.5T bill if not.

Things like that in these bills is as bad or worse than the actual spending.

[KeithKSR]

I'm very curious if the zoning language will be snuck into this one or if the GOP can spot it and take it out. I'm sure it's in the $3.5T bill if not.

Things like that in these bills is as bad or worse than the actual spending.

With the passage of this infrastructure bill in the Senate we can only hope that the Dems have forgotten the intent of reconciliation bills. The Dems can basically add anything they want to the infrastructure bill and pass it in the House. With two different bills passed they would go into the reconciliation process where there is no filibuster. I fear the passage of this bill is a bait and switch by the Dems to get their big bill passed.

[dan_bgblue]

In reconciliation, the republicans can pull out any part of the dem bill that does not met the criteria for reconciliation and blow it apart. When they do that, then it requires the original 60 votes for passage and both houses have to once again agree on the language and that is not going to happen when AOC loses one of her pet spending projects. They have already said that they will not vote for passage of the infrastructure bill if they can not get the family infrastructure bill passed as well.

Keith, I may be way wrong on this one, but I think McConnell and advisors have a good plan in place to ruin the plans of Nancy, Schumer, Bernie, and the squad. They can go into the 2022 elections saying they voted for real infrastructure spending but would not vote for the huge give away, tax and spend bill, and crippling inheritance tax bill on small family business and farmers.

I would love to see passage of the current bill as it gives me nice benefits in Medicare of Vision, Dental, and hearing coverage, but I would not vote for it if it means passage of the rest of the pork spending.

[dan_bgblue]

Votearama

[CitizenBBN]

McConnell did a good job getting votes on things they want to run on in the elections.

The question is what kind of deal was made re reconciliation between Schumer and McConnell. I have no doubt a non-written agreement was made of some kind but it's hard to say where it stands. No doubt McConnell wanted reassurances re the use of reconciliation but what he got we may only be able to understand as this moves forward.

The House will clamor for all of it, and the Squad will twist over it, but if an understanding was reached I doubt Schumer would go back on it. That kind of agreement is a cornerstone of the working of the Senate.

Hopefully Mitch got a decent deal out of it. He doesn't hold a lot of cards, but he's played them well. he's arguably the best procedural Senator of the last 50 years.

[catmanjack]

From what I hear it’s McConnell’s republicans that helped to get this passed.

[CitizenBBN]

From what I hear it’s McConnell’s republicans that helped to get this passed.

And that may not be a bad thing if concessions were obtained re the reconciliation process and the $3.5T bill.

Some compromise is necessary, and not even bad for the nation. We won't know what deal was cut for a bit.

And spending on infrastructure, as spending goes, is the least harmful and even at times beneficial. If compromise is going to happen, this is one of the best areas for it to happen.

[KeithKSR]

And that may not be a bad thing if concessions were obtained re the reconciliation process and the $3.5T bill.

Some compromise is necessary, and not even bad for the nation. We won't know what deal was cut for a bit.

And spending on infrastructure, as spending goes, is the least harmful and even at times beneficial. If compromise is going to happen, this is one of the best areas for it to happen.

The Trump infrastructure plan had a greater amount of infrastructure spending at a lower total price tag, but McConnell didn’t push it through when he had the opportunity. The plan they passed has about 20% of the funds going toward infrastructure and the rest goes toward other things. Right now the only thing standing between the Dems $3.5 trillion socialism package is Joe Manchin’s opposition, unless the parliamentarian rules out some of the liberal plans.

[dan_bgblue]

Votearama

Democrats’ Vote-a-Rama Will Trap the Middle Class With Big New Taxes

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[CitizenBBN]

About all Mitch could do was to force the Democrats to vote on a lot of things they can run on in the election.

Looks like moderate Dems in the House, who rightly are nervous about the election, may block the $3.5T bill. They should b/c they are going to struggle in vulnerable districts.

Gas prices rising, inflation rising, foreign affairs failures, and lots and lots of stuff to use from the leftist extreme like defunding police. True or not of that particular representative, it makes for good campaign ads and they know it. Biden was elected as a moderate, and that's not what we're seeing.

You're even seeing blowback among Democrats in places like the NYC mayoral election.

[dan_bgblue]

Senate amendments to the budget reconciliation bill that were passed during Votearama

I don't think Nancy and crew will be smiling this morning.

[dan_bgblue]

The broom riding biotch is having a tough time keeping her herd in lockstep with her plans


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[bigsky]

She will get it done. I have no faith in “moderates” in Congress

[Doc]

She will get it done. I have no faith in “moderates” in Congress

I have no faith in anybody in Congress

[KeithKSR]

She will get it done. I have no faith in “moderates” in Congress

She will have a harder time riding herd as a lame duck speaker. Pelosi won’t be there after the 2022 elections and neither will they if they vote with her.

[KeithKSR]

I have no faith in anybody in Congress

I have faith in them to do as little as possible after the first of the year and do anything they can to be re-elected.

[dan_bgblue]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democra...d=hp_lead_pos6

“The vast majority of the caucus understands that we have probably a once-in-a-generation opportunity to pass transformational legislation,” House Budget Committee Chairman John Yarmuth (D., Ky.) said Monday evening. “We can do that and pass the infrastructure bill and that there’s absolutely no reason not to at least take the first step toward reconciliation, which is what this vote would be.”

Democratic leaders had initially planned to hold separate votes on the procedural measure, known as a rule, which would advance both the infrastructure bill and the budget framework, as well as a separate bill giving the federal government stronger oversight of states’ voting practices, before voting Tuesday on passage of the budget framework itself.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democra...d=hp_lead_pos6

[KeithKSR]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democra...d=hp_lead_pos6

“The vast majority of the caucus understands that we have probably a once-in-a-generation opportunity to pass transformational legislation,” House Budget Committee Chairman John Yarmuth (D., Ky.) said Monday evening. “We can do that and pass the infrastructure bill and that there’s absolutely no reason not to at least take the first step toward reconciliation, which is what this vote would be.”

Democratic leaders had initially planned to hold separate votes on the procedural measure, known as a rule, which would advance both the infrastructure bill and the budget framework, as well as a separate bill giving the federal government stronger oversight of states’ voting practices, before voting Tuesday on passage of the budget framework itself.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democra...d=hp_lead_pos6

Sinema says she is a no vote on the $3.5 trillion package.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/23/k...illion-budget/