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    Re: Theoretical science must be a wonderfield of study

    This is one of the fundamental facets of science: the theory must match ALL of the data (see the 'Ultraviolet Catastrophe' which lead to quantum physics).

    When it comes to dark matter, we cannot make the current framework (Newtonian Physics) work without it at the cosmological scale. We know that Newtonian physics works at our planetary scale and smaller, we also know that adding dark matter to the equations seems to correct the errors at the cosmological scale. As such, this was the most simple solution (Occam's Razor) and we have spent decades now attempting to detect it. At this point, we know dark matter doesn't interact with light, doesn't interact with any known electromagnetic radiation, and appears to be wide-spread throughout the universe. We have pretty much exhausted all known possible atomic and sub-atomic particles which could have caused it.

    At this point, simplicity leads us to it being possible that Newtonian Physics do not apply at larger scales. This is such a wide open concept, that you need some "reconnaissance" to get a lay of the land. Enter the theoretical physicists who try to make sense of the mess and guide the experimental physicists on where and what to look for. The experimental physicists will then feed data back to the theoretical physicists who then refine the theories.

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    Re: Theoretical science must be a wonderfield of study

    As a Christian I believe faith is a tangible substance as Christ said. So I am going on the premise that dark matter is faith. And faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

    And it holds the entire universe together
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    There was a time you could say something like that and science would scoff at it.

    But in this age of new discovery, more and more such a theory holds as about much scientific weight as any being put forward. In reality, it is appropriate to call dark matter "faith" whether one believes or not.
    Unless they totally discount its existence.

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    Re: Theoretical science must be a wonderfield of study

    Scientists at the University of Sussex have measured a property of the neutron -- a fundamental particle in the universe -- more precisely than ever before. Their research is part of an investigation into why there is matter left over in the universe, that is, why all the antimatter created in the Big Bang didn't just cancel out the matter.

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    Re: Theoretical science must be a wonderfield of study

    Quote Originally Posted by PedroDaGr8 View Post
    Enter the theoretical physicists who try to make sense of the mess and guide the experimental physicists on where and what to look for. The experimental physicists will then feed data back to the theoretical physicists who then refine the theories.
    This might be of interest:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/b...d-lindley.html

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