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Doc
Going to refer back to the ORIGINAL post......
I too felt Obama was a "good person". I never felt he was "unamerican" etc.. even though many did. He saw America in a different way that I did, yet because I didn't see it that way I was repeatedly called a RACIST. People who didn't agree with a welfare state were by definition racist. Those who disagreed with him on POLICY were degraded and termed RACISTS. The term took on a who new meaning. It went from a person who demeaned an entire race of people based on their ethnicity to anybody who wasn't a lock step liberal. He booted 1/2 of the nation "to the back of the bus" (his terms--one that a white GOP uses its a "dog whistle for racism") because according to him elections have consequences when it to his benefit. He literally helped turn the nation against the law enforcement of this nation, helping to paint them all LEO's as racist. He was every bit as divisive, if not more so, than trump. Yet I still viewed him as an honorable man. Most republicans did not spend every waking minute looking to impeach, arrest, or make his life miserable. Did some? Sure but no more than many democrats did for Bush. Yet now we have congress people advocating VIOLENCE against those who support the duly elected President simply because they can not fathom they lost. They have resorted to creating hoaxes and conspiracies in cahoots with the meida.
Much of Trump's image of being an ass, somebody who you don't respect is HIS doing but much is the media and the democrats doing. They label him a white supremacist but ask them for specifics and they come up flat, using vague examples like what he said at Charlotteville, or that he is Anti-Mexican, or wants a Muslim ban...all things that are huge media/left spins. I too believe that both sides in Charlottesville had a right to be there and have their say. We love to spout the "I may not agree with what they say but will fight for their right to say it" until they say something we don't agree with. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN CHARLOTTESVILLE. Believe me, I find every word uttered by BLM, the "Reverand Al Sharpton", Louis Farrakan, Jessie Jackson, etc every bit as disgusting and hate mongering!!!! Yet they have the right to spew their filth. Wanting to secure out boarders isn't anti Latino. It is about protecting our nation. Ditto for increased screening for people coming from high terrorist countries. But his opponents paint it as something its not, repeat it ad nasueum and eventually some stick. But I actually LIKE a president who isn't a flaming pussy, one who stands up for America and puts us first. One who isn't a "globalist". One who isn't afraid to offend those who have taken advantage of us for decades. Does he need thicker skin? Sure, but you know what. So did Obama. How often did he attack Fox and other conservative News outlets?
the difference is that Obama took the same approach when attacking them as he did with foreign policy. It was lots of bluster and no action. In essence, he brought a spit ball to a gun fight. In Contrast, Trump brings a bazooka to a knife fight.
I'm like Darryl. I work hard for my money. And despite what liberal say...I DO PAY MY FAIR SHARE OF TAXES. Its the 50% of the nation that pay NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES THAT ARE NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE. When I was living on hot dogs and mac & cheese while going to school, paying my own way, I managed to put away money for my kids college fund. I didn't squander money on a big TV, or season sports tickets, or other luxuries. I spent my money on planning ahead so MY kids, the kids I created and the kids I am responsible for, could go to college. I have no responsibility to pay for somebody elses kids education, or for their medical cost. I didn't have the fun of making them so why should I pay for them?
As for the non political aspect, the social discourse...well the social discourse is a result of the politics. It is as simple as one side lost and can't handle it. The retaliation is to stomp their feet and act like a bunch of ####ing 2 year old babies. When my side lost (when Obama won), I simple tolerated the results and vowed to vote again in 4 years. Thats how our political system is suppose to work. Not any more. Now its "we don't like the results so lets 1) invalidate the results by creating a Russian Conspiracy hoax 2) lets go after the president, his family and anybody associated with him 3) Impeach, impeach, impeach and 4) Physically, verbally and mentally attack anybody who supports him. I mean lets make red hats illegal because they make somebody "uncomfortable" and represent the oppression of African Americans. Get the F over yourself.
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