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    Meet Dr Patrick Moore: Greenpeace co-founder who left the organisation hijacked by political left

    He discusses the political investment in climate change, and uses scientific fact to support his point of view and his respect for proven science.

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    He has 2 presentations on the net and this is the link to the 2nd one

    Combined, the links take you to approximately 2 hours worth of his talks. I am sure it is because I am bored to death, but I felt like the information provided to be well worth my time to gather.
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    Britons will be urged not to heat their homes in the evening as part of a "behavior change" effort to hit "net zero" target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsky View Post
    Britons will be urged not to heat their homes in the evening as part of a "behavior change" effort to hit "net zero" target.
    Just sayin, we are getting closer to the next dark ages and it’s not incrementally but self induced.

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    One of the better scientific vs political presentations I have heard since this issue came to bear on the great climate discussion.

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    This talk is well worth anyone's time to listen too. Her education and subject savvy is exceptional.

    Dr Judith Curry graduated cum laude from Northern Illinois University with a Bachelor of Science degree in geography. She then earned a Ph.D. in geophysical sciences from the University of Chicago.

    Her research interests include hurricanes, remote sensing, atmospheric modeling, polar climates, air-sea interactions, climate models, and the use of unmanned aerial vehicles for atmospheric research. She was a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee and has published over a hundred scientific papers and co-edited several major works in climate science. Curry served on the NASA Advisory Council Earth Science Subcommittee whose mission was to provide advice and recommendations to NASA on issues of program priorities and policy. She was also a member of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Climate Working Group from 2004 to 2009, a member of the National Academies Space Studies Board from 2004 to 2007, and a member of the National Academies Climate Research Group from 2003 to 2006.

    Dr. Curry retired from her university position in 2017, partly because of what she described as "anti-skeptic bias", which she attributed to the political nature of climate science, and that’s part of what she talks to Luis Razo about today – the very tricky relationship between science and politics.
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    The agreement was announced during the U.N.'s now-concluded COP28 climate summit in Dubai, which was extended with an "overtime" period as delegates hammered out a deal with commitments related to future fossil fuel usage and other climate-related priorities. The so-called global stocktake represented the first U.N. agreement of its kind to include language calling for nations to transition "away from fossil fuels."

    "While diplomats are fearmongering about projected minuscule temperature changes, billions of men, women and children around the world would rejoice at the opportunity to enjoy reliable electricity that fossil fuels provide," American Energy Institute CEO Jason Isaac told Fox News Digital.


    John Kerry, "the pied piper of the elite money swindlers" happily pushed the agreement forward, then left the meeting to sit in his air conditioned gasoline powered limo for a comfy trip to the airport to board his fossil fueled jet airplane for the trip home to his fossil fueled temperature controlled home in the good ole US of A.

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    Why do we think the CCP is giving money to the climate hysteria folks? #1. To slow global climate change? #2. To drive the US economy into the dirt? #3. To give Kerry and the Bidens some more money? #4. To drive up the price of soy sauce?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_bgblue View Post
    Why do we think the CCP is giving money to the climate hysteria folks? #1. To slow global climate change? #2. To drive the US economy into the dirt? #3. To give Kerry and the Bidens some more money? #4. To drive up the price of soy sauce?
    Very telling isn't it, on two levels.

    First of course is the CCP wants the US to not be competitive, and nothing makes you less competitive than taking your most important economic input from cheap and reliable to expensive and undependable.

    But it also screams volumes about THEIR commitment to changing from fossil fuels, b/c if they did they would be on the same path as the US and there would be no competitive gain.

    If the US goes to very expensive oil, solar, wind (laugh), and they open a new coal fired plant every couple of weeks, they'll blister us on input costs for production, and they know it.

    They for sure don't care if their people or anyone else suffers from the effects. These are the people who brought you the Cultural Revolution, forced infertility, slave labor, child labor and so much more.

    The thing is, if they and India do not match the US in climate initiatives, then nothing we do will change the course of climate change. That's the part people aren't getting. We just won't make a difference in climate change but we will insure we are a 2nd rate nation economically and militarily.

    The only real choice is to rely on fossil fuels, become energy independent and a low cost producer, and then fund research on green energy that is workable. Right now the only option is nuclear power, and the environmentalists don't like that one either.

    We simply lack the technology to do much better than we are doing without dramatically reducing our economic competitiveness, other than to embrace nuclear power, which we can certainly do.
    People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinkin' I'm back.

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    bigsky, please notice the rat on a stick


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    My very favorite climate change phrase and there it is! Thank you!

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    CO2 , The Gas of Life"-Dr. William Happer

    An hour and a half dissertation on the global warming hysteria and CO2's contribution in climate and life on earth.
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    The agronomic discussion alone is worth hearing , (IMO) about plant growth, water usage and CO2's affect on plant growth, health, and productivity is well worth understanding. The greening of the Sahara is no joke and and is another truth that is rarely being reported by the MSM, the proletariat, socialist governments, and the jet setters who fly to meet with others of their ilk who wish to enforce their will upon the poor and misguided of the world.

    The presenter is just sharing facts for us to consider, digest, and make very important decisions on our own.
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