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    The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...io-cortez.html

    We're seeing this on BOTH sides, but maybe more on the left at least right now. it was much more on the right in 2016 with Trump winning, and the Tea Party movement.

    Tonight a top Democrat House member, one of the ones eyed to replace Pelosi, just lost to a devout socialist, who has campaign posters with "Socialism will win" on it. Big, red signs in the style of old Soviet posters.

    On the other side, standing against Trump in the GOP isn't very wise either of late.

    Both parties are radicalizing, though it would seem the Democrats are getting there faster of late. The shrill nature of their rhetoric is coming back to bite the more establishment candidates as they've whipped many in their "base" into such a frenzy they are going out and voting for even more extreme candidates.

    Now that being said the DNC is clearly recruiting mainstream candidates, esp. those with military backgrounds, to try to win those general elections. But it's not clear their voters are OK with that, and it will repress turnout of that group. Same thing with the GOP, as even lifelong Republicans are increasingly unexcited about the establishment candidates.

    Very interesting to watch the dynamics, as the leadership tries to get more middle of the road candidates, but their own voting bases keep going father to the sides of the road.

    IMO the GOP probably is a bit better off with this, as the "trump" candidates are more extreme but seem to be more electable than the most extreme socialist candidates, and the most extreme Trump type guys (like the one in West Virginia) were rejected.

    But the DNC is doing a better job I think of targeting some swing races with middle candidates, like here in KY-6.
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    Re: The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    Dems have to get some Sam Nunns to win the tide and stop Trump.

    Socialists will not carry the day in swing states. unless tariffs negate any personal gains from tax cuts and high employment.

    Have to come to the middle from both sides. That is our hope. Extremism from the left and right both lead to facism.
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    Re: The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    Rasmussen poll...civil war?

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ar_likely_soon

    Poll: 59% fear violence from Trump haters

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...dict-civil-war
    Last edited by badrose; 06-27-2018 at 11:16 AM.
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    Re: The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by badrose View Post
    Rasmussen poll...civil war?
    A case could be made that that happened with the election of Trump, where the populace declared civil war on the ruling elites, and now those in power have doubled down on stupid


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    Re: The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    A case could be made that that happened with the election of Trump, where the populace declared civil war on the ruling elites, and now those in power have doubled down on stupid
    Yes, I think that sums it up.
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    Re: The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    A case could be made that that happened with the election of Trump, where the populace declared civil war on the ruling elites, and now those in power have doubled down on stupid
    That's basically how I see this too.

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    Re: The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    Been a radical centrist all my life. Pushed to the right by the radicalization of campuses, (anti free speech, communists, Title IX abuse, anti male bigotry, end of accountability,) in particular but several of the far left organizations like Democrat Socialists, living wage, resist, etc.

    Congress failure and immense debt from both parties has me wondering how big a reboot is needed.

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    Re: The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by bigsky View Post
    Been a radical centrist all my life. Pushed to the right by the radicalization of campuses, (anti free speech, communists, Title IX abuse, anti male bigotry, end of accountability,) in particular but several of the far left organizations like Democrat Socialists, living wage, resist, etc.

    Congress failure and immense debt from both parties has me wondering how big a reboot is needed.
    A massive one.
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    Re: The voters are radicalizing even more it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBBN View Post
    A massive one.
    A massive reboot that will not in any way be pleasant.

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