Harvey

[CitizenBBN]

Some scary stuff from your link, Dan. A couple of excerpts:

Harvey is drifting toward the southeast near 2 mph (4 km/h), and a slow southeastward motion is expected over the next couple of days. On the forecast track, the center of Harvey is forecast to move off the middle Texas coast on Monday and meander just offshore through Monday night.

Harvey is expected to produce additional rainfall accumulations of 15 to 25 inches through Friday over the upper Texas coast and into southwestern Louisiana. Isolated storm totals may reach 50 inches over the upper Texas coast, including the Houston/Galveston metropolitan area.

Oh. My. Gosh.

50 inches. Wow. I don't know what the record rainfall for something like this in the US is but surely that's close to one. I don't even know what you do with that.

If Lexington got 50" my house would be OK b/c we picked REALLY high ground (we're above the aptly named High Street), but downtown lexington would finally get that lake the Webbs wanted. My neighborhood would be lakefront property and Rupp would be an indoor fishing pond. I can't even imagine what it would look like. My gallery would be toast.

Insane numbers.

[CitizenBBN]

I looked it up and apparently this is old hat, I guess it what Dan was alluding to. The 24 hour record is Alvin Texas, outside of Houston, in 1979 from a tropical storm. 43 inches. The total for the storm was 45 inches, but 43 of it was in one day.

[Darrell KSR]

Sorry but that is just effin stupid. We see this all the time here with hurricanes or floods. Always some guy with a pick'em up truck who thinks he is all that and a bag of potato chip where he can drive thru anything because, well, he has a pick up truck and he knows how to drive even when the police, rescue and fire dept have all said stay off the roads...usually its because he needs either beer or free water

Yessir. Makes me mad as he'll and I don't have to suffer those fools in person as you do. I'm the first to feel bad for anybody suffering (OK, maybe not the first, but I do feel bad), but the line is drawn when they create their own hazards.

[Darrell KSR]

I looked it up and apparently this is old hat, I guess it what Dan was alluding to. The 24 hour record is Alvin Texas, outside of Houston, in 1979 from a tropical storm. 43 inches. The total for the storm was 45 inches, but 43 of it was in one day.

That's crazy. This is Noah's ark stuff.

[CitizenBBN]

That's crazy. This is Noah's ark stuff.

It was interesting reading.

The largest 12 hour rain was recorded in Pennsylvania of all places, so not from a tropical storm, just a storm. Got 34 inches in 12 hours, but they think that 28 of it fell in 3 hours. The article said it stripped hillsides to the bedrock.

The record for an hour is 13.8 inches in a town in West Virginia in the 40s.

The record for 1 minute is 1.23 inches. That's over 70" an hour. That is apparently also the world's record for rainfall, and it was in Maryland. Personally I'd bet some tropical areas have seen more but it was just never recorded by anyone, but that's a ton.

But in my view that makes this storm in Texas one of the "right up there" rainfalls with the national records if they really get up in that 50" range. It will be over days but still just as crazy an amount of rain as it appears to be.

[blueboss]

Houston's 911 has received 56,000 calls in the last 24 hours. In a typical 24 hour period Houston's 911 service receives 8000 calls.


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[blueboss]

This may be one of the few Aug-Sep gulf storms that pounded Texas or southwest LA that I have tracked in the last several years that winds up NOT being a rain maker for KY. Most of the time the storm tracks up the Mississippi river and then bends to the east and dumps rain and spanking winds on us.

Yet.


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[dan_bgblue]

5 day Harvey precip forecsst

[Catfan73]

Probably going to be wet in Hattiesburg Saturday.

[MickintheHam]

This may be one of the few Aug-Sep gulf storms that pounded Texas or southwest LA that I have tracked in the last several years that winds up NOT being a rain maker for KY. Most of the time the storm tracks up the Mississippi river and then bends to the east and dumps rain and spanking winds on us.

It will be over Kentucky Bend on Friday and everyone in Western Ky should get a soak and possibly a tornado or two.

[Darrell KSR]

Probably going to be wet in Hattiesburg Saturday.

Looks like it.

[Catfan73]

Wonder how long fire ants can float around before they ALL drown?

http://news.opera-api.com/news/detai...76010b6bfd2_us

[Darrell KSR]

Wonder how long fire ants can float around before they ALL drown?

http://news.opera-api.com/news/detai...76010b6bfd2_us

Too long.

[MickintheHam]

Probably going to be wet in Hattiesburg Saturday.

It appears to me the storm will be clear of Hattiesburg on Sat. Doesn't mean it won't rain. It rains there most every day this time of year.

[Darrell KSR]

Hopefully not much more...

[Darrell KSR]

And...

[Darrell KSR]

Records.

[Darrell KSR]

This forecast is good news, isn't it?

[Catonahottinroof]

As it relates to the game Saturday, yes it is.

[Darrell KSR]

Snakes....



Fire ants...




Alligators...



All Hurricane Harvey issues...

[Darrell KSR]

UK Equipment Staff preparing contributions of gear to send to Coach Sampson at Houston, who is organizing the effort.

UK is always on the forefront of charitable endeavors. It makes me proud. Calipari has already sent some stuff, I think, in addition to a $150k contribution from the charity fundraising alumni game.

[UKHistory]

It is like the plagues in Egypt. Heart breaking.

This is an unbelievable amount of rain. Several years ago I flew to Houston on business. Torrential down pour (relatively speaking) hit the city. I was struck how the water (3 inches) stood and the area started to flood.

No city was built for this type of weather. But the city doesn't do well with heavy rains.

Terrible story and the pictures are terrifying.

[Darrell KSR]

Seattle, Washington has an average annual rainfall of 37".

[Catfan73]

Bayou: a marshy arm, inlet, or outlet of a lake, river, etc., usually sluggish or stagnant.

We need to stop living where the water is supposed to be.

[blueboss]

They have the same amount of water on the ground that would be equal to 15 days of flow over Niagara Falls.


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[Doc]

Ugh....I'm watching Irma pretty closely now. Coming off Africa, already a Cat 2 and predicted to come bearing down on me although some models have it going into the Gulf and even hitting the Texas coast. That would be a real pisser, huh! However most models have it hitting the east coast of FL middle of next week. Hopefully the models are wrong and it turns north before it hits Puerto Rico.

[Catonahottinroof]

On the news today, it was stated that the amount of area under water in Texas was roughly the size of Lake Michigan. That is astounding and absolutely dwarfs what Katrina did in New Orleans. Mind boggling.

[CitizenBBN]

Bayou: a marshy arm, inlet, or outlet of a lake, river, etc., usually sluggish or stagnant.

We need to stop living where the water is supposed to be.

I put up a thread on the Barber shop b/c I was worried about it being a big controversial here, but it revisits the fact that as early as 1998 there was a report on how government is skewing the market in several ways to basically cause these disasters.

Obviously they don't make it rain, but they do have a lot of control over whether people build right in the low lying area in the path of that rain. Houston is a low lying area, and they have paved over the bayous and marsh lands there and now we're surprised when it rains a bunch and it floods.

It got into the federal flood insurance programs, Houston's long time lack of control over zoning and development, etc. Even back then Houston was cited as one of the worst situations in the country, where numerous homes had been flooded repeatedly and paid out. The record was in Houston, paid out 16 or 18 times.

So a lot of this is people simply building where it isn't wise to build.

[Catfan73]

It floods every time in rains in parts of southwest Jefferson County here in Louisville. Residents always want to blame the Metropolitan Sewer District but one glance at a map shows it's in a flood plain.

[Catfan73]

Speaking of rain in Louisville, we're supposed to get remnants of Harvey starting around midnight tonight, some of it pretty heavy. The high tomorrow is only forecast for 64 degrees.