Three of the people I am closest too ave said something to that effect. I think I agree.
Three of the people I am closest too ave said something to that effect. I think I agree.
I'm one of thoseOriginally Posted by ShoesSwayedBlue
Following the Nevada primary, I shook my head as Trump said how he liked the uneducated. He repeated the statement over and over. Folks just cheered. It is crazy in my mind.
Well, I wouldn't put anything past him, but I don't think Trump is a planned Trojan horse.
I just think he is an egotistical narcissist who believes he can win anything. And I think he thinks he can convince people of anything. So I think he saw the Republican Party as the easier party to become a chameleon to.
And frankly, in that regard, he's done a pretty damn good job (as sad as that is).
Oddly, I don't think he's that different than Hillary. I think both are pretty "flexible" when it comes to their core beliefs. And in a weird way, both would probably be ok as a President only in the sense that they would probably make deals with both sides much like Bill did.
But Trump would be embarrassing to the country imo. I just could never vote for someone that actually said he's well endowed during a debate for President.
I was a Rubio fan and after the last couple debates and few weeks of campaigning have changed. Odds are I'll be voting for Kasich on March 15 in the FL primary. Don't expect it to make much difference though.
Trump could be embarrassing to the country but IMO no more than a President who gets called before congress for lying about getting a hummer in the oval office or one who tries to cover up for a break in of the other parties national headquarters............or one who should be indicted for any of a number of crimes.
As for his reference for this no problems down there comment, IMO it wasn't much different than Clinton (Bill) talking about his exploits in the back of his El Camino/astroturf.
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Aging is an extraordinary process where you become the person you always should have been.--David Bowie.
So what really changed? Are you now self conscious about the size of your hands?
The childish behavior. I thought he was above that.
Aging is an extraordinary process where you become the person you always should have been.--David Bowie.
Like I said earlier, that was a suicide mission for Rubio. To take Trump out (or try) he would have to take himself down as well. He did, and now we will see if it works. If it does, it's Cruz who will benefit imo.
People didn't make a big enough deal during Super Tuesday about Trump underperforming. He won a lot of states but almost across the board his numbers were less than the polls.
Is not the size of the hands but the magic in the fingers.
Aging is an extraordinary process where you become the person you always should have been.--David Bowie.
Chicago.
Hope I'm wrong, but I think this is just the beginning.
Supporters of a socialist proud they repressed the democratic process and free speech and association.
I'm sure that fact is utterly lost on them. Fools.
People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinkin' I'm back.
That's because they believe that the only opinion that matters is theirs. They do not care who they hurt, whose rights they violate, only that they get to make the choices for everyone else........and that is ultimately what it is all about. They want to tell everyone else what to do "because we know what's best for everyone".........
MOLON LABE!
moveon.org should be held accountable, charge the leaders with inciting a riot, Justice department needs to charge them with civil rights violations.
You were right.
This will backfire. Americans have a strong sense of fair play, and even those who dislike Trump will see that he has a right to conduct his campaign and say his piece.
They're going to create a certain sympathy for Trump he'd never get for himself. It won't be a tidal wave, but it will happen IMO. Shouting someone down isn't the American way.
People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinkin' I'm back.
Trump's 1st amendment rights weren't violated. He CHOSE to cancel the event. Chicago police and campus security did NOT advise Trump to cancel, as he has said many times. They specifically told them the protesters were under control, which they were until the announcement of the cancellation. This was all a ploy for Trump to turn himself into a 1st amendment advocate, to further solidify his support, especially as his momentum was starting to slow.
The other Republican candidates absolutely had the correct reaction, but I'm surprised none of them picked up on this well-planned, intentional outcome. The protesters were well organized(not really sure why that's wrong), but Trump was even more prepared.
Disrupting or impeding an event in which the Secret Service provides the protection is a federal crime. For all the whining protestors are doing, the joke is on them in this instance.
I'm thinking of going 3rd party this time around. Looking at one of these:
U really think players are going to duke without being paid over Kentucky?--Gilbert Arenas, 9/12/19
I continue to be stunned at the choices we make as a nation of free peoples.
Most people can't separate the ideas of individual liberty from democracy, but the truth is that individual liberty works wonderfully, but democracy really doesn't live up to the hype. it's a deeply flawed system that for a variety of reasons basically pushes us to electing some of the very least qualified and ethical people possible.
Part of it is that honestly not everyone should vote. Not a popular opinion but it's the truth. With rights come responsibilities, in this case the responsibility to have a basic understanding of the nation's structure and needs, yet a huge percentage of Americans can't even name the three branches of government. Also see the video of the guy who went on college campuses getting names on a petition to repeal the First Amendment so people could have "safe spaces" free from ideas they don't like. Sorry, those people shouldn't be voting, or operating heavy machinery, or really taking up perfectly good air for the rest of us.
The broader part is that we unloosed the purse strings of government and as Ben Franklin knew, once people found out they could vote themselves money the system was doomed. When the federal government did very little they had very little power so they were not worth bribing and they couldn't roll enough barrels and raise enough pork to do much damage to the nation as a whole. Now that they control every aspect of everything we do every day without any end in sight (hell guys, they regulate the size and font type of every street sign in America now from Washington, seriously), the level of corruption (both input and output) has gone insane. The input corruption of lobbying and buying politicians is clear (Hillary didnt' get $650K for one speech bc of her oratorical skill), but the output corruption of individual welfare, corporate welfare and massive spending in every direction from health care to tobacco research is bankrupting us.
Yet voters make decisions based on short term goals and personal desires and needs and ideologies they barely can spell much less understand. They have a limited or no understanding of the issues, take no time to find out about them, and believe the most absurd sound bite reduced nonsense as gospel fact. that's not all voters of course, but its a big percentage of them. More people know the three judges on American Idol than they do judges on SCOTUS, or for that matter the Vice President or Senate Majority Leader or House Speaker, etc.
Individually people aren't all stupid, there's a lot of street smarts out there, but at the level of elections we are talking about mob mentality and groupthink and those are incredibly stupid and short sighted and self interested. The same basic organic process that leads to normal people burning cars b/c their sports team won also governs a lot of political outcomes. Not quite as bad, it's a longer process, but there is a lot of herd mentality to it.
Trump is a protest vote, and honestly as I see a lot of the behavior around me I get that frustration. ICE released 19,000 illegal aliens last year who were convicted of crimes instead of deporting them. Of those released they totaled 64,197 criminal convictions between them. Over 12,000 of those were DUIs, and 208 were freakin' MURDERERS.
The best part is the head of ICE was defending them b/c the year before they released 25,000 illegals who should have been deported, so they're getting tougher on things.
When you see that kind of thinking, and immigration is just one sliver of a vast movement towards stupidity the likes of which I cannot fathom, from "safe spaces" and "microaggressions" to having a democratic socialist winning primary elections, I totally get the reaction. I really do.
The sad part isn't that people and Republicans in particular are completely fed up with party politics and the direction of the nation. The sad part is the only person to step in and fill the leadership void for that group was Trump.
But I admit as much as I know the flaws in the man and as much as I have issue with them, I have warmed to it some b/c like the rest I really do relish the idea of putting a massive monkey wrench in the Washington beltway machinations.
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People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinkin' I'm back.
BTW, that frustration isn't limited to immigration. That's an issue Trump took up, and it's an issue IMO, but personally I'd have picked the runaway welfare state, runaway regulation and what has to be the most limp and ineffectual foreign policy since the US began having a foreign policy of any note with the Monroe Doctrine.
Health care is another good choice. Just call that one like it is. We have already quasi-socialized medicine since the 60s and the result is the same thing you get every single time you socialize and governmentize anything: runaway costs and lower service levels. There's a shocker.
People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinkin' I'm back.
--UK loses in the Round of 32
--Reds will lose at least 100
--UK Football...'nuff said
--Hillary/Trump election
On a 0-10 Suckitude scale, 2016 is on pace to hit about a 9.8.
U really think players are going to duke without being paid over Kentucky?--Gilbert Arenas, 9/12/19
Never have I been more depressed over an election. I have been actively interested and involved in presidential elections since I went to the polls with my mother and wore an "I Like Ike" button. I actively worked on the Goldwater campaign in Kentucky. Since then I have voted for Nixon, McGovern, Carter, Reagan, Bush41, Dole, Bush 43, McCain, and Romney. That's quite a collection of candidates. Other than the McGovern vote, I voted for the more conservative candidate or the candidate I felt supported individual liberty. (McGovern was purely a war protest vote and a vote against Nixon of whom I grew very leery).
But, I may not vote in the Presidential election at all this year. That doesn't mean I won't vote. I just won't vote for the President. The two presumptive nominees are a complete embarrassment. Neither has the character to hold public office. I doubt either could convince me otherwise. The only way I can see voting is if justice is served, Hillary is indicted and there is a moderate democrat waiting in the wings. But one thing I have learned with the office's incumbent, even an incompetent person can serve in the Oval Office for 8 years.
Trump vs Clinton..........in my mind, once again we are faced with choosing the lesser of two evils.........no real good choice here.
MOLON LABE!
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