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    Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List Them

    I will wait 30 minutes. It is an interesting order.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Using Street And Smith's Ranking System awarding points:
    Regular Season W/L Pct x 40
    Regular Season Conference Titles x 12
    Conference Tourney Titles x 6
    AP Final Top 10 x 3
    AP Final #1 x 6
    NCAA Appearances x 10
    NCAA Tournament Wins x 4
    Sweet 16 x 4
    Elite 8 x 8
    Final 4 x 14
    NCAA Title Game x 16
    NCAA Title x 25

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #12 Ohio State with 458.2 points

    5 Big 10 Regular Season Titles
    4 Big 10 Tournament Titles
    7 AP Top 10 Finishes
    2 AP Final #1 Ranking
    15 NCAA Appearances
    19-8 in the NCAAT
    5 Sweet 16s
    3 Elite 8s
    2 Final 4s
    1 Title Game
    0 NCAA Titles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl View Post
    I will wait 30 minutes. It is an interesting order.

    Darryl
    In no particular order

    Kentucky
    U Conn
    Louisville
    Duke
    North Carolina
    Florida
    Michigan State
    Wisconsin
    Arizona
    Syracuse
    Kansas
    Ohio state?

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    By the way, that's a sitting in line at the pizza place off the top of my head only.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell KSR View Post
    In no particular order

    Kentucky
    U Conn
    Louisville
    Duke
    North Carolina
    Florida
    Michigan State
    Wisconsin
    Arizona
    Syracuse
    Kansas
    Ohio state?
    You missed only 1, my wise friend. Wisconsin did not make the cut. Another PAC-12 team did (surprisingly)

    Want to guess the order?

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Wild guesses

    Kentucky
    Duke
    Kansas
    Florida
    UNC
    UCONN
    Louisville
    Arizona
    Mich St
    Syracuse
    Butler
    Ohio state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl View Post

    You missed only 1, my wise friend.

    Want to guess the order?

    Thanks, Darryl
    No, I will embarrass myself if I do. But I will be watching as you post them.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    Wild guesses

    Kentucky
    Duke
    Kansas
    Florida
    UNC
    UCONN
    Louisville
    Arizona
    Mich St
    Syracuse
    Butler
    Ohio state
    You missed on the same one Darrell did.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #11 Syracuse with 551 points

    514-179 overall for 74.2%
    4 Conference Titles
    2 Conference Tourney Titles ***Really low numbers for an elite type program***
    2 AP Top 10 Finishes
    0 AP #1
    16 NCAA App
    32-15 in the NCAA Tourney
    9 Sweet 16s
    4 Elite 8s
    3 Final 4s
    2 Title Games (1996, 2003)
    1 NCAA Title in 2003

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #10 Louisville with 596 points

    470-214 overall for 68.7%
    4 Conference Titles
    7 Conference Tourney Titles
    4 AP Top 10 Finishes
    1 AP Final #1
    16 NCAA Tourney App
    29-15 in the NCAA Tourney
    8 Sweet 16s
    6 Elite 8s
    3 Final 4s
    1 Title Game (2013)
    1 NCAA Title (2013)

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #9 Arizona with 628 points

    494-181 overall for 73.2%
    6 Conference Titles
    1 Conference Tourney Title
    7 AP Top 10 Finishes
    0 AP Final #1
    17 NCAA Tourney App
    36-16 in the NCAA Tourney
    11 Sweet 16s
    7 Elite 8s
    2 Final 4s
    2 Title Games (1997, 2001)
    1 NCAA Title (1997)

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl View Post
    #11 Syracuse

    2 Conference Tourney Titles ***Really low numbers for an elite type program***
    Darryl
    That really is. 10%.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl View Post
    #10 Louisville
    7 Conference Tourney Titles
    Darryl
    That's more like it. Wonder if that kind of number will continue in the ACC.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #8 UCLA with 656 points...Surprised??

    461-203 overall for 69.4%
    7 Conference Titles
    3 Conference Tourney Titles
    5 AP Top 10 Finishes
    1 AP Final #1
    15 NCAA Tourney App
    34-14 in the NCAA Tourney
    9 Sweet 16s
    5 Elite 8s
    4 Final 4s
    2 Title Games (1995, 2006)
    1 NCAA Title (1995)

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #7 Florida with 674 points

    480-198 overall for 70.8%
    6 Conference Titles
    4 Conference Tourney titles
    4 AP Top 10 Finishes
    1 AP Final #1
    15 NCAA Tourney App
    35-13 in the NCAA Tourney
    8 Sweet 16s
    7 Elite 8s
    4 Final 4s
    3 Title Games (2000, 2006, 2007)
    2 NCAA Titles (2006, 2007)

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Surprised by UCLA but shouldn't be given their success in mid-90s and then under Howland at first

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl View Post
    #8 UCLA with 656 points...Surprised??
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    (Raises hand). Not shocked, and not even surprised after I read your compilation. But obviously missed them when I thought of the 12. the 10 conference/tournament titles is pretty impressive.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #6 Michigan State with 786 points

    488-190 overall for 72%
    7 Conference Titles
    4 Conference Tourney Titles
    6 AP Top 10 Finishes
    0 AP Final #1
    18 NCAA Tourney App
    42-17 in the NCAA Tourney
    12 Sweet 16s
    8 Elite 8s
    6 Final 4s
    2 Title Games (2000, 2009)
    1 NCAA Title (2000)

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #5 North Carolina with 855 points

    516-184 overall for 73.7%
    8 Regular Season Conference Titles
    4 Conference Tourney Titles
    12 AP Top 10 Finishes
    2 AP Final #1
    17 NCAA Tourney App
    47-15 in the NCAA Tourney
    10 Sweet 16s
    10 Elite 8s (outstanding record)
    7 Final 4s (leads nation)
    2 Title Games (2005, 2009)
    2 NCAA Titles (2005, 2009)

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #4 UConn with 870 points

    515-171 overall for 75.1%
    8 Conference Titles
    6 Conference Tourney Titles
    8 AP Top 10 Finishes
    0 AP Final #1
    15 NCAA Tourney App
    46-11 in the NCAA Tourney
    11 Sweet 16s
    9 Elite 8s
    5 Final 4s
    4 Title Games (1999, 2004, 2011, 2014)
    4 NCAA Titles (1999, 2004, 2011, 2014) Leads Nation

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #3 Duke with 888 points

    565-137 overall for 80.5%
    8 Conference Titles
    10 Conference Tourney Titles Leads Nation
    18 AP Top 10 Finishes (Nation's Best by a mile)
    5 AP Final #1 (Nation's Best by a mile)
    19 NCAA Tourney App
    43-17 in the NCAA Tourney
    13 Sweet 16s (tied for nation's best)
    6 Elite 8s
    4 Final 4s
    3 Title Games (1999, 2001, 2010)
    2 NCAA Titles (2001, 2010)

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    #2 Kansas with 963 points

    584-124 overall for 82.5% (nation's best)
    16 Conference Titles (#1 by a mile)
    9 Conference Tourney Titles
    13 AP Final Top 10 Finishes
    2 AP Final #1
    20 NCAA Tourney App (#1 in nation)
    47-19 in the NCAA Tourney
    13 Sweet 16s (tied for nation's best)
    8 Elite 8s
    4 Final 4s
    3 Title Games (2003, 2008, 2012)
    1 NCAA Title (2008)

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Who's left?

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl View Post
    #2 Kansas with 963 points

    16 Conference Titles (#1 by a mile)
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    Amazing number. Simply amazing. Credit where due.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    #1 Kentucky with 1020 points

    517-154 overall for 77%
    9 Conference Titles
    9 Conference Tourney Titles
    12 AP Final Top 10 Finishes
    2 AP Final #1
    18 NCAA Tourney App
    55-14 in the NCAA Tourney (#1 by a mile)
    13 Sweet 16s (tied for nation's best)
    11 Elite 8s (nation's best)
    6 Final 4s (tied for #2)
    5 Title Games (1996, 1997, 1998, 2012, 2014) Leads Nation
    3 NCAA Titles (1996, 1998, 2012) 2nd in Nation

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    What is truly remarkable about UK is that this 20 year period from 1995-2014 includes the worst 4 year non-probation
    era in our modern history (1930 forward). From 2006-09 we won 0 conference titles, 0 conference tourney titles, went
    2-3 in the NCAA tourney without advancing past the 2nd game any year, and was unranked 4 straight years.

    Hate the coach (Pitino) or love him (Cal)...without those 2 we may be in an Indiana tailspin.

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    Re: Top 12 Overall Programs Last 20 Years...Anyone Want To Guess Order BEFORE I List

    Good stuff. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darryl View Post
    #8 UCLA with 656 points...Surprised??

    461-203 overall for 69.4%
    7 Conference Titles
    3 Conference Tourney Titles
    5 AP Top 10 Finishes
    1 AP Final #1
    15 NCAA Tourney App
    34-14 in the NCAA Tourney
    9 Sweet 16s
    5 Elite 8s
    4 Final 4s
    2 Title Games (1995, 2006)
    1 NCAA Title (1995)

    Darryl
    No surprise. UCLA made a little NCAA Final Four run that was pretty impressive before the wheels fell off the Howland wagon.

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    The thing that really hurts is that UConn has won half their titles at our expense in the last 3 years.

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