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    True Detectives

    It's on HBO. Great acting and casting. It's a bit dark, but has moments of naturally occurring humor. It stars Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey playing detectives on a gruesome ritualistic murder. Kids shouldn't watch. First episode was last night but there will be more airings of it before the 2nd airs. Just a heads up.
    Cool as a rule, but sometimes bad is bad.

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    Have it DVR'd. Hope to watch it with the husband tomorrow night. Can't be doing anything tonight but watching my Cats beat Arkansas.
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    I watched the first episode again last night at work. (It takes a second viewing for me to figure out what's what). I thought it was very well done.

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    Sssslllllooooowwwww

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    Yeah, not your typical run-through in a whodunnit. The producers admit up front it's more about the process than solving the crimes. The characters are heavily flawed and the system bogs them down. To me it seems quite authentic.
    Cool as a rule, but sometimes bad is bad.

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    I have known a cop or two just like both of those guys. But I have never known any officer that spent 4 years deep undercover. I did it for almost a year and was so relieved when I finally came back out into the real world. But 4 years? No wonder he's out there with some of the things he says and does.

    Anyone that spends too long under like that loses their real identity, and their humanity. That's why most officers can't do it for that long. And shouldn't. Again, JMHO.
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    Just saw the Biker bar episode and all I can say is WOW. HBO shows might start "sssssllllllloooooowwwwwww" but the payoffs....It's all about the payoffs. McConaughey and Harrelson are two of our finest actors in their prime. When you combine that talent with HBO's capacity to let shows develop it's must see TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suncat05 View Post
    I have known a cop or two just like both of those guys. But I have never known any officer that spent 4 years deep undercover. I did it for almost a year and was so relieved when I finally came back out into the real world. But 4 years? No wonder he's out there with some of the things he says and does.

    Anyone that spends too long under like that loses their real identity, and their humanity. That's why most officers can't do it for that long. And shouldn't. Again, JMHO.
    Good insight.

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    Very good show. And I am usually not one to watch those types of shows because I have lived it. But the pair of McConaughey & Harrellson picq
    ued my interest right away. And yeah, this last episode was all business, and it'll be building from there.
    All of the interviewing scenes are to build the story, and it requires some patience to work through that tedious process, but the final result will most likely be worth the wait.
    I also had a lot of memories go through my head when they visited Dorie's ex in prison. That was classic "good cop - bad cop" stuff there, and Cohle's answer to his question as they were leaving his cell was a knife straight through the heart and then twisted, and considering the overall circumstances was about as straight an answer as you could ever give a guy like that under those circumstances.
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    Whoa! The whole going back to Texas and then going into a housing project to steal their dope is just a little bit out there, especially since that is the only way they have of getting to their murder suspect. That is some far out stuff there.
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    'Ol Marty just can't keep it at home. But then Maggie is no prize either. And after she intentionally put herself in the middle of a strained working relationship between Marty & Rustin, well, I'd be very hesitant to have anything to do with her.
    Two wrongs do not make a right.

    Religion & politics & murder & odd people sure do make for a good story. Throw in the locale of Louisiana and you have a very interesting story line.
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    It's a great story with a lot of detailed inside look at the characters. Most of us never get to see the under belly of humanity and this gives a great POV. I haven't watched last night's episode yet but I know it will leave me wanting more.
    Cool as a rule, but sometimes bad is bad.

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    The interviews, the background of each interview segment are very detailed. So are the depictions of the actual investigative work.
    Most people get caught up in the 45 minute "solve the crime quickly" environment of nertwork TV. In actuality real investigations take a lot of time and lots of leg work talking to lots of people. And if you're thorough and can keep an open mind you can learn lots of things about a case or even other cases.
    Field and interview notes are critical. So are crime scene pictures, as well as any other photographic evidence that may be available. But the interviews and any crime scene evidence are usually what makes a good case.
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    Love True Detective. Will be sorry to see it end after 2 more episodes.

    Since they're going to change the actors each year, I'm wondering who'll they'll get for next year's show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMSBball View Post
    Love True Detective. Will be sorry to see it end after 2 more episodes.

    Since they're going to change the actors each year, I'm wondering who'll they'll get for next year's show?
    So new actors come in next season with a new story? Hmmmmm, that will be interesting.
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    I loved the scene where Marty "met" the two boys who were with his daughter. Innocent of any real crime but in a world of trouble. Does that really happen???

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    One of my favorites



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    I loved the scene where Marty "met" the two boys who were with his daughter. Innocent of any real crime but in a world of trouble. Does that really happen???
    Yes. And probably more than you want to know.

    And they're not innocent if anybody's clothes were on the floor and there was any coitus in progress. And I do believe that is what Marty was told by the deputy that found them, which he then told Maggie.
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    Well, the previews for this Sunday's episode are intriguing. What could possibly be so bad to freak Harrellson's character out so much after all he'd already experienced and seen?
    Cool as a rule, but sometimes bad is bad.

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    QUOTE=suncat05;158626]Yes. And probably more than you want to know.

    And they're not innocent if anybody's clothes were on the floor and there was any coitus in progress. And I do believe that is what Marty was told by the deputy that found them, which he then told Maggie.[/QUOTE]

    I say innocent because they looked to be about 18 or 19 year old boys who were with a more than willing 17 year old girl. Think back to when you were that age and tell me you haven't done worse. I sure have. Regardless, the punishment shouldn't be a near fatal beating while in jail by a crazy detective/father. (but it makes for some good TV LOL)

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    Been in a physical confrontation or two, but never one involving my daughter, and certainly not for that reason. And I didn't agree with or condone Marty's actions, although I can understand his frame of mind, given the circumstances. And even though she is still living under his roof, at her age she is responsible for her actions, and she also shouldn't be pissing off Pops. She's the one who should have toted a whuppin' back to the house, not those boys.
    Don't agree with what happened to Reggie LeDoux either, but I can see the point of view that says he got what he deserved. Not right, wouldn't do that myself, but I do see the end result being exactly what he deserved.
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    Re: True Detectives

    Love the show. Woody's character beating up those boys in jail is one reason I have my own concerns with law enforecement.

    I appreciate people protecting the public. But this is an example of not protecting the public but abusing one's authority and behaving like a thug.

    Most laws make sense and I do my best to follow them. But it is damn shame that I need to be afraid of the cops as much as I am criminals.

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    For what it's worth.....just noticed in the scene where Marty shot Reggie in the head he DID NOT have a spiral tattooed on his back? I thought his jail cell mate said he did have the tattoo as a sign of devil worship.
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    History, just as there is good in every other segment of society, there is also bad. And that especially goes to everyone in law enforcement. We, in that very small group, are supposed to be the good example for others to follow.
    But sometimes it just isn't like that. I understand your concerns, and I agree with you. But for the few that are bad, there are many more that are the good that you look to when needed. I don't know what else I can offer you but that.
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    I got you. The bad decisions are what we read and hear about. Hard working men and women doing their jobs right won't get reported. That is a real shame.

    I also have concerns about government infringing on my rights--a separate but related issue. Police are in a war and that can negatively affect even the best of people.

    But sincerely a true thanks to you and other good law enforcement officials for literally putting their lives in harm's way to keep us safe.

    Quote Originally Posted by suncat05 View Post
    History, just as there is good in every other segment of society, there is also bad. And that especially goes to everyone in law enforcement. We, in that very small group, are supposed to be the good example for others to follow.
    But sometimes it just isn't like that. I understand your concerns, and I agree with you. But for the few that are bad, there are many more that are the good that you look to when needed. I don't know what else I can offer you but that.

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    History, the thanks goes to good citizens like you and the rest of the folks here for supporting law enforcement and our military. Without the support of all of you we couldn't accomplish our missions of protecting lives & property and our country.
    I'm just doing what God and my parents pointed me in the right direction to do. But thank you for your support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrose View Post
    Well, the previews for this Sunday's episode are intriguing. What could possibly be so bad to freak Harrellson's character out so much after all he'd already experienced and seen?
    Apparently Cohle came into possession of a video of this alleged cult group doing something to a young girl, but it did not show what. And maybe it made Marty have a flashback of when he investigated some meth head putting his baby in a microwave to "dry it" after it got wet. That is why he screamed like he did.
    I might have too. Even after all of these years on the job and after all of the things I've seen, I still can't stomach the thought of somebody doing something bad to a child.
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    I'll just say I'd come to expect 'awesome' and it exceeded that. Brav-freaking-o!
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    Quite an ending, wasn't it? I had a feeling about that groundskeeper guy the first time I saw him, and it was reinforced when the 2nd team of detectives stopped to get directions from him. The scenes inside that hidden fortress, or church, or whatever that old building was, was pretty intense too.
    This was just a very well done show. Way out of the ordinary, at least to me.
    And as it turned out, once they figured out that more crimes were happening after they killed Reggie Ledeux, they approached like it needed to be done.
    I also read an article with the producer Nick Pizzalato (sp?) where he says this story is loosely based on an actual incident in Louisiana in a church where the actual pastor and some members of his church turned to devil worshipping, although there was no human sacrificing involved, just animals.
    One other thing: I hate knives! I have been stabbed once, and cut another time. I hate knives! If I even think a knife might be in play, out comes Mr. H&K. And if you're within that magic 21 feet mark as prescribed in the Use-of-Force Matrix, shame on you, you're fixin' to feel the pain.
    Did I mention that I hate knives? Just sayin'............
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    One other thing: since neither Marty or Cohle were actual police anymore, and because of how the situation ended, I can easily see some overzealous federal prosecutor trying to make a name for himself in the aftermath of what happened. Just my take on it.
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