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    What to eat: Elitism at its finest

    COMPLAINTS MOUNT AGAINST MICHELLE O'S NEW LUNCH MENU...
    STUDENTS BEG IN VIDEO...
    'WE ARE HUNGRY'...
    'THIS DOESN'T CUT IT'...
    WASTED FOOD...
    Pizza on menu today at Obama girls' school...

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    Hey, pizza is a vegetable, so that's a healthy menu too.
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    Re: What to eat: Elitism at its finest

    so is Catsup...or is it Ketchup?
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    Hummus and black bean salads in elementary schools? Kids who insist on eating chicken nuggets for every meal.

    I think Michele O needs to work those lunch lines for a while. Lots of parents try to get their kids to eat "right", but they have to mix it in with what they'll actually eat.

    Hummus a "tough sell" to elementary school kids whose parents have never eaten it. Ya think Captain Obvious?

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    Oh, and when Reagan had ketchup end up as "vegetable" on the list, which was fairly misleading, it got front page news everywhere. Think this one will be front page anywhere? I mean other than here and Drudge.

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    Re: What to eat: Elitism at its finest

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_bgblue View Post
    Looks like a sound idea. People think it's to enforce the mandate, but what they want is to have video to prove that the federal mandate is failing and fight against it.

    Here's a news flash Michelle: kids given a choice between broccoli they don't like and not eating will NOT EAT. This isn't news to anyone who was a kid or raised a kid or otherwise has drawn breath.

    It's the level of naivety that most shocks me. These people live in some alternate universe where "that's such a wonderful thing" somehow will just magically happen if we put pen to paper. They dont' even begin to think through how some bubble land decree will actually end up in the real world.

    The sheer conceit of thinking they should be in charge of telling people how to eat and how to dress (see Obama's speech), and using the power of the State to make sure you listen, is beyond words. it's not just wrong and useless, it's offensive.

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    Guess what. Its my responsibility as a parent to raise my kids which includes determining what they do and don't eat.

    However folks really are missing the big issue here. Those who support this use the government is subsidizing the lunch program hence is responsible for what is and isn't on the menu. The gov't should not be buying junk food. I agree, however I am going to go one step farther and to the real important issue. Why is the government subsidizing lunches in our school? I reside in a typical middle america neighborhood and most of the the kids who attend schools here are well off and do not require or ask for government assistance. I'd much prefer my child have a "hot lunch" rather than brown bagging it however since the gov't is subsidizing it, subsidizing all the lunch programs, it now gives them the say so it what is served. See, once in the gov't gets to determine the rules, what is offered and what isn't...what is appropriate and what is not. The decide because its their check that is covering some of the costs.

    And you think its going to stop there? Just wait until the "Affordable Health Care Act" kicks in!
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    Doc I couldn't agree more. That's the insidious nature of government. They come to you with something "free" and then start to run the show b/c after all they are funding it (or at least part of it).

    So b/c they "give" you health care, they can now tell you to wear a motorcycle helmet b/c if you injure yourself they may have to pay the bill. Yeah but who asked them to pay the bill? They use their funding to get around the whole concept of individual liberty and also federalism.

    Why on Earth is the federal government determining what happens in local schools all the way down to detailed menus for lunch? That was not and is not the purview of the federal authority and was never intended by the Founders. Education was always a state and local matter. if California wants to require veggies and fruit and ban pizza fine, that's their state constitution to battle over, but they don't get to vote in a federal politician who then inflicts it on us.

    This is why the Founders knew the best solution was to have as little government as possible, involved in as few things as possible. once they become involved all the intentions of that involvement will be corrupted and twisted and subvert individual and local community choices. You lose independence, the right to do as you choose or to raise your children as you choose.

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    Re: What to eat: Elitism at its finest

    How many think Michelle eats that stuff? Thought so.YOu can have healthy lunch'es but do it in a way the kids like the food. I can't remember his name, but the british chef that had the show where he goes into school districts and tries to revive the menus, he does it with fresh food that taste good. No way I eat Hummus, I don't even like the sound of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBBN View Post
    Hummus and black bean salads in elementary schools? Kids who insist on eating chicken nuggets for every meal.

    I think Michele O needs to work those lunch lines for a while. Lots of parents try to get their kids to eat "right", but they have to mix it in with what they'll actually eat.

    Hummus a "tough sell" to elementary school kids whose parents have never eaten it. Ya think Captain Obvious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_bgblue View Post
    Andrew Jackson Elementary School in Pasadena, said any student who brings the snack to school will have the item confiscated.

    Man. Anyone else glad they grew up when parents could still raise their kids and every little thing wasn't a national emergency requiring federal regulation?

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    Give em some Soylent Green

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    Jazy it's laughable to try to serve that to kids. I make a good hummus and my nieces like it but they have been raised on a multi-national cuisine, heavy on Asian, since birth. Their nanny is Thai and they (like I) keep Nuoc Mam (Vietnamese fish sauce) infused with Thai chilies in the fridge and use it regularly.

    Even they still do the same basic thing all kids do of only wanting to eat about 5 things. Theirs are different, but it's the same thing: getting little kids to try new foods is a struggle at best and is a genetic predisposition designed to keep kids from eating foods that would make them sick.

    So without parents there they expect kids who often refuse to eat anything but chicken nuggets for a week to try foods they've never heard of before.

    it's beyond ill-conceived. It's just flat stupid. I mean really stupid. I can only guess Michelle didn't do a lot of hands on rearing of the kids for her to not know this is dumb as a box of hammers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catonahottinroof View Post
    Give em some Soylent Green
    I remember that movie.

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    This upset me from the first time I heard it...here's a thought...if youre not satisfied with school lunch...BRING YOUR LUNCH FROM HOME...problem solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by cattails View Post
    I remember that movie.
    50 years ago, some saw a socialist utopia occurring....

    Hmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelSteve View Post
    This upset me from the first time I heard it...here's a thought...if youre not satisfied with school lunch...BRING YOUR LUNCH FROM HOME...problem solved
    That is definitely a solution, but would it not be better for all concerned for the school cafeteria to serve food most kids would eat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_bgblue View Post
    That is definitely a solution, but would it not be better for all concerned for the school cafeteria to serve food most kids would eat?
    They need to actually cook the food there again, it's OK to serve what they served before as long as its fresh and not shipped in on a big rig frozen cause all the sodium to preserve it is actually whats poisoning everyone
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    Citizen has a nanny???

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGWildcat View Post
    Citizen has a nanny???
    If a 20 year old hot girl with a thing for middle aged guys asked if I needed one, she'd be hired.

    I don't, but my nieces do. Very nice and fairly wacky Thai lady. They've been exposed to a very diverse cuisine where they live, about everything imaginable, and their mom still feeds them chicken nuggets and grilled cheese a huge chunk of the time b/c that's what they'll eat. She works in veggies and fruit but even though they like Pad Thai, sushi and bagels and lox it's still a challenge to get them to eat more than 5 things in a cycle.

    So it's hard for kids who have a far wider pallet than I dreamed of having at that age. Good luck with my meat and potatoes family. One year I made cheese hominy instead of cheese grits for a holiday dinner and it was met with initial trepidation. Hominy is just the bran kernel of corn and is often turned into grits.

    Imagine had I served hummus. Maybe a nice basil pesto and olive tapanade bruschetta. lol

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    Have I told my boiled cabbage story before?
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    Re: What to eat: Elitism at its finest

    The whole thing is about obesity. Kids need to get outside two or three times a day and play. Tag, tether-ball, marbles, whatever. Work up a good appetite, suddenly the number of things your willing to try grows substantially. At Russell Independant Schools we had great food most of the time. A few kids were obese but not many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelSteve View Post
    This upset me from the first time I heard it...here's a thought...if youre not satisfied with school lunch...BRING YOUR LUNCH FROM HOME...problem solved
    My first thought is why the hell is the government in the food service business? My tax dollars are going to this give away too. However you failed tha address a major point.

    Andrew Jackson Elementary School in Pasadena, said any student who brings the snack to school will have the item confiscated.

    This snack confiscation is for student who bring their own lunch. If I limit my child to one bag of chips a week and the school confiscates it because they don't think it's heatly, we got some major issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    My first thought is why the hell is the government in the food service business? My tax dollars are going to this give away too. However you failed tha address a major point.

    Andrew Jackson Elementary School in Pasadena, said any student who brings the snack to school will have the item confiscated.

    This snack confiscation is for student who bring their own lunch. If I limit my child to one bag of chips a week and the school confiscates it because they don't think it's heatly, we got some major issues
    It's time for more parents to start homeschooling

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelSteve View Post
    It's time for more parents to start homeschooling
    They will get a better education...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catonahottinroof View Post
    They will get a better education...
    A lot of them would for sure, but what about the kids of 30% of parents that can not read or write and do not know where Cuba is, or that an atom is smaller than a molecule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan_bgblue View Post
    A lot of them would for sure, but what about the kids of 30% of parents that can not read or write and do not know where Cuba is, or that an atom is smaller than a molecule?
    Youre right...but lets be honest...do most of these teachers we trust to teach the kids really truly know what they are teaching without the manual?

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    Plenty of evidence out there on the interwebz that SAT/ACT scores are consistently higher with home schooled students versus their publicly educated counterparts.

    Quite simply, the home school teacher is a parent, likely a mother and they care more about the education of their child than a state educator.

    So not only is a public education of lesser quality, so are the menu choices :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelSteve View Post
    It's time for more parents to start homeschooling
    Wow, I just wrenched my neck trying to watch that deflection. Homeschooling has zero to do with the topic... Zip..... Nada..... Zilch
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