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If old guys like myself, Mick, Larry V, Lonny, Darrell and others appear to be giddy over our football recruiting, please forgive us. I know the majority here are more basketball minded, and who can blame you, we love basketball too. But for long suffering fans such as ourselves this recruiting prowess we're showing is other worldly right now!
I'm so excited about football recruiting I really don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight.
I'm young compared to you old codgers. Lol. Like you however, I am stoked at the level of recruiting we have seen thus far. If these guys can coach and develop talent half as good as they've been able to recruit, then we are on the verge of something very special!
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Originally Posted by Terry Blue
Count me among the old coots, but I m with you on this one.
Not since Blanton Collier have we had this much reason to be giddy bout football. I'll probably catch Hell for not mentioning the Mumme years; it was fun to watch, but not real hopeful for a successful outcome.
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Originally Posted by TRUCKERCATFAN
Lovingggggg it.
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Let me be the Debbie downer a little..I'm not celebrating till the letters are signed...going to be a rough year...I will always have that little feeling of negative about UK football, need to see some results to be 100% on board..it's a start though
Rivals updated Team Rankings has Kentucky # 6.
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I sort of agree with anderwt a little, but then again too I also find myself agreeing with Pappy too.
I do believe what I am seeing this staff do so far on the recruiting trail, and in relation to past endeavors their efforts and results are nothing short of outstanding. Where my concerns are is in what kind of results we see on the field this year. I want to believe that we have enough talent to attain 6 wins and a bowl bid. I also see that we play the toughest schedule in the entire country this season. So I am officially in the corner that says we'll have to wait and see how the season plays out.
But I am in agreement with most of our older members here (of which I admit that I am one of) in that I do believe the future for Kentucky football is very bright indeed!
I do agree that excitement should be tempered a bit. It's early, we have a bunch more signees than some of the others, the top players always wait to commit so the big dogs will shoot up the rankings in January/February... but to even be in these waters at any time of the year is unprecedented and exciting. The Nico Fioris commitment has us up to #4 in Rivals. Sure, we won't finish that high, but you gotta like our chances of finishing in the top 15 or at least 20.
Then you saddle up and do it again. That's the thing with college sports, there's no "season" or "offseason", there's just "recruiting season" all day every day. I'm excited to see what we can do 2014, 2015 and beyond. After a few years I'd expect these competitive classes to yield competitive results.
Crunched some numbers, and here's how the "point" averages shake out in Rivals. I feel like their point system is more exact than the star system and We're #20 in point average, which is probably around where I'd expect to finish. Which would nevertheless be amazing.
Team Commits ***** **** *** Star Avg Points Point Avg
Notre Dame 11 2 6 3 3.91 1433 130.2727273
Clemson 10 1 5 4 3.7 1290 129
Michigan 11 1 4 6 3.55 1366 124.1818182
Texas A&M 13 0 8 5 3.62 1614 124.1538462
Alabama 10 0 6 3 3.5 1176 117.6
LSU 10 0 6 3 3.5 1131 113.1
Florida State 10 0 5 5 3.5 1125 112.5
Auburn 9 0 4 5 3.44 996 110.6666667
Arkansas 4 0 2 2 3.5 440 110
Florida 10 0 5 4 3.4 1068 106.8
Miami (FL) 11 0 6 4 3.45 1160 105.4545455
Tennessee 15 0 6 9 3.4 1570 104.6666667
Georgia 8 1 3 2 3.57 834 104.25
Washington 3 0 2 1 3.67 310 103.3333333
Ohio State 10 0 5 4 3.56 1028 102.8
Texas 15 0 5 10 3.33 1448 96.53333333
Virginia 7 1 1 2 3 669 95.57142857
West Virginia 2 0 1 1 3.5 189 94.5
UCLA 4 0 2 2 3.5 375 93.75
Kentucky 15 0 4 10 3.29 1388 92.53333333
Iowa 5 0 2 3 3.4 457 91.4
Stanford 3 0 2 0 3.33 272 90.66666667
Penn State 11 0 3 7 3.18 996 90.54545455
Wisconsin 6 0 2 3 3.17 540 90
Minnesota 3 0 1 1 3 270 90
Louisiana-Lafayette 1 0 0 1 3 90 90
I think SalsaKat's method is probably the best for a simple projection, so right around the #20 class (which would be probably #8-9 SEC.) Of course with the start they have there's the possibility they can focus more on higher ranked recruits. I can see a top 15 class as a realistic possibility.
Fans always overrate the impact of the current season on recruiting. They see a disaster or a bunch of highly rated new commitments in every win or loss. We will probably see some shakeup regardless, players who are swayed to flip or run into academic or injury issues. However, my gut feeling is that most of these guys are solid. I think it would take a perfect storm of bad - these coaches turning out to be totally incompetent, major mismanagement of relations with recruits, etc. - to see any significant negative changes. Sure, it's the SEC, but Stoops is regarded as one of the top defensive coaches in the nation and Brown one of the brightest young offensive coaching stars. They seem to have handled everything internally and externally as well as anyone could ask. I don't blame Anderwt and others for being cautious, that's smart; but I'm not going to sweat it too much!
Joker was a big mistake ..The Coach in waiting idea was flawed.Look what Stoops has been able to accomplish.and it only gets better..Keep it going guys..Yahztee!
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Now if we can just add Matt E to the crowd, we'll definitely be in tall cotton. I too am one of the old geezers, a fan back to the days of Bryant, and now for the first time in years and years I by-pass basketball articles to get to the football news. But I'm also among the few that feel we're taking our first baby steps and will have a long way to go even after this 2014 class is on board before we can hope to be a real contender in the always tough SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darrell KSR
I salute you Jim ("old timer") With ya' on Matt. Can't say we aren't tryingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimcats
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