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A college baseball player from Australia, playing for Central Ok, was at his girlfriends parents visiting and went to jog. 3 teens, 15-16-17, saw him and decided they wanted to kill someone because they were bored. Followed him in a car and shot him the back. He would have been a senior.
Hope they fry the kids
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Wtf?
Really mind boggling.
Also, the police chief said that two of the three boys have previously been in trouble with the law.
Lane was a resident of Australia and had just returned to Oklahoma last week.
The local district attorney is expected to file first-degree murder charges Tuesday in Stephens County District Court. It's not yet known if the three individuals will be tried as juveniles or adults.
Well, two of the three should have known better. Fry them, give the other life in prison. This kind of thing just boggles my mind. No empathy, no sense of right/wrong, no fear of consequences,...animals.
I would definitely try them as adults
Just when I feel pretty comfortable with my anti-death penalty stance you read something like this. Prayers for everyone. What a tragic waste of 4 lives.
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Originally Posted by UKHistory
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Who does this? How could a person living life ever decide to take another's with no reason? Especially a group of them, you would think one would have some sense!
This is just sick...Hits home a little bit because the community college I work currently has 2 Australian's playing baseball for our baseball team, one is a freshman, who I have not met yet, and the other is a sophmore who is just the greatest kid. I just can't even fathom something bad happening to them.
Gotta wonder if this was a gang initiation...
They certainly will be tried as adults but are not eligible for the death penalty because they are under 18 at time of crime. This age group 15-17 is one of the most dangerous in our society today. They think they are bullet proof and that as minors they won't face much consequences if caught. Do not confront them if it can be avoided because they will gun you down in a heart beat.
What a gross and unfair overstatement. It's this mentality that leads to the divides that we see between cultures in our communities. They will gun you down in a heartbeat? Are you talking about any 15-17 year old or just ones that look like they're trouble? Gee, I wonder why some of these kids feel like they are being marginalized.Quote:
Originally Posted by LakeCat
Sorry for the soapbox, but I can't stand when people go off on "kids these days." People of all ages (and color, gender, nationality, etc.) are capable of causing trouble. To specify a particular demographic is shameful.
In principal I want to agree with your ideal - but that's what it is IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thedonnie123
No, we shouldn't "lump people together" but much of what he said is true. Yes all demographics are capable of such things but this case is about bored kids killing a man.
Coddling has led to power - power which is used to do whatever the hell they want with no regard for others. The gang mentality (like a group of people not crips and bloods) is a real issue. Get more than a few marginal kids together and suddenly VERY bad things can happen.
Look at the case of the mentally handicapped adult in Louisville who was nearly beaten to death by several young people just for the hell of it. They DO think they are above consequence and they DO think they can do and take whatever they want. And in many instances it IS very dangerous to confront their behaviour.
It's time for the villagers to take the corner back from the crack dealers with baseball bats.
Cool down Donnie. I am talking about the 15-17 year olds that are in the criminal justice system. That was the context of this thread. I have a 16 year old myself, he wouldn't hurt a fly. However, I have prosecuted a number of minors as "adults" who have committed crimes involving a firearm. Many of thes kids have been tossed from home to home or have been violtently assaulted themselves and they can commit horrific crimes with absolutedly no remorse. I am authorized to carry a gun essentially anywhere in Kentucky and I can assure you I would fear a group of teens "trolling" the streets more than any other category.
A lot of those 15, 16, 17 year olds are built like men but think like little boy bullies. Most of them (we are talking about those young people who do this for fun) have been through horrible things which helps produce this type of mentality.
They need love and prayers and protection. But what do you for the victim who turns cruel bully and victimizes others.
Reading that a person uses boredom as a reason to kill makes me shudder. That is a lost soul in need of redemption to be sure. But for the good of the rest, they may just need to be ended instead.
you need to go back and read what Lake wrote, no where close to what you just got on him about. He is a prosecutor, he knows what he is talking about.
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History, I feel the same way. I had changed my opinion several years ago deciding that if I was anti abortion, then I couldn't turn around and say end someones life, that is God's decision and not mine.
however, in this case, I think they need to be put down and the criminal element in that are needs to know what will happen when you do something this stupid regardless of age.
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Originally Posted by UKHistory
Unfortunately, this is becoming the nature of today's society. Most people today have no moral backbones at all and it is only going to get worse.
Sensationalist nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by westtncat
I also fear it is only going to get worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by westtncat
Of course! I mean, violent crime has declined across the board year over year for the past two decades and is the lowest it's been since its peak in the mid-90s, but yeah, three hooligans murdering someone in Oklahoma is a sign that the end times have started.Quote:
Originally Posted by GhettoBird
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This.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlueBrock
This
Has Obama said either of the two black young men could be his son? Anything from Jesse or Al? NAACP? 2 are black, 1 is white or maybe he is a Hispanic white or outside chance he is Australian white
As more and more end up in the democrat hellhole of welfare, this is a byproduct
When I moved to Miss in 1979 I loved going to the Delta, great food, loved the people. My has it changed. Gangs are in every small town now. A few years ago black gang teens murdered a shop owner for $20. I have been told by customers that in Shaw and Clarksdale they break into homes in daytime with people watching, must get value to buy drugs. Heard a report this morning that 15 states now have people on welfare that the value is wort over $15 per hour, in Hawaii it is worth $29 per hour. No incentive to work, so steal, get bored, shoot so done for a thrill
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Animals.
I really struggle with this. My "position" is anti-capital punishment, for the same reason you expressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazyd
But I can't help but "wanting" the ultimate punishment here on earth for certain elements.
Not for this board's discussion, so I'll stop there. And most of my friends feel differently, and I respect those opinions, too.
Boredom is the single worst explanation for killing anything let alone a human being that I have ever heard. Yawl think a letter dated August 13 raises my blood pressure, that comment shakes me and spurs me to a righteous indignation.
Someone mentioned that murder is down across the country but this one really hits home. More for the political board but wow.
They will suffer more if they get life without parole. In KY we're seeing defendants who want the death penalty (or at least don't want their lawyers to fight it) because they know they'll get their own cell, the best treatment, and 30 years of free lawyering on their case, all with very little chance of actually being executed. Hell, some of them get much more than that out of their lawyers.
IMO there is no contradiction with being against abortion and for capital punishment.
The difference is an unborn child has done nothing to warrant punishment. they have not broken the social contract and are incapable of forming the state of mind to do so in any way. A person who kills another like this for no reason has chosen to break the social contract and deserves whatever punishment is deemed appropriate for the crime.
It's like saying you can't be for capital punishment if you are against 3 teens killing a man b/c they were bored b/c you are either for or against killing. Of course you can.
I'm a huge fan of capital punishment personally. Some people have done things so repugnant and wrong there is no reason to allow them to live among us in any fashion.