Can we all agree Ocasio-Cortez is fencepost dumb or nuts?

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I would have no issue with the feds looking into Trump and his connection to Russia IF the same was done to the DNC. IMO, a meeting between Trumps underlings with Russians is far less of a concern to me than paying for and using a Russian created dossier. I fully expect that not everybody holds that same opinion, that believe the DNC did nothing wrong, and Trumps alleged infractions are far more nefarious. But then Hillary did not win the election, and the purpose of the Meuller report was to overturn an election.

Also rest assured that my feelings towards the ethical standards of Trump is no better or worse than the last administration. Eric Holder, BHO, etc were every bit as guilty of "obstruction of justice" when it comes to Fast and Furious as well as the IRS targeting conservatives. They used "executive privilege" and ignored subpoenas in order to prevent the exposure of these potentially illegal programs. And that does not even address the FISA court abuse. I would take the "impeach crowd" more seriously if they showed the same outrage 4 or 5 years ago.

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Exactly Doc. Exceptionally well said IMO.

Eric Holder has said in public he's "Obama's boy". He's the AG, who was held in contempt for not turning over documents related to a major disaster overseen by DOJ. If Barr came out and said he was "Trump's Boy" would that be OK? Oh no, that's proof of obstruction of justice, when it's Trump.

The law must be applied evenly, or it's not a law. Equality before the law, the rule of law, is essential.

Did Trump's people have contact with Russians? Yes. So did Hillary's, Obama's, Bush's, etc. Investigate it all evenly, fairly, or shut up about it. The truth is there is vastly more foreign influence in Washington than anyone really wants the general public to know, on all sides. I'm against all of it, but I'm against just singling out Trump for it when everyone has done it and acting like he's some kind of exception and that it proves he's a traitor.

The duplicity of this entire couple of years is mind blowing.

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Was Holder also the beneficiary of a firing and subsequent hire at the peak of the investigation of his boss?

Heck, he may have been Im not sure. If so, I'd agree that is pretty shady stuff. :trink39:

But seriously, there is always time to start doing right and expecting better. If a thief gets away with stealing from you, do we stop holding the next robber responsible because your house wasn't the one robbed?

Tim is a YouTube journalist. He is not conservative, nor is he regressively liberal. He has the same take as I do. I’m glad to know others out there see the same things I do...

https://youtu.be/Pak8vWbwyJQ

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But seriously, there is always time to start doing right and expecting better. If a thief gets away with stealing from you, do we stop holding the next robber responsible because your house wasn't the one robbed?

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No but what I don't do is let the first robbery go uninvestigated or unpunished and call the second thief a racist crook. Me, I look for BOTH thiefs, not just the second one

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:rolleye0013:
Was Holder also the beneficiary of a firing and subsequent hire at the peak of the investigation of his boss?

Heck, he may have been Im not sure. If so, I'd agree that is pretty shady stuff. :trink39:

But seriously, there is always time to start doing right and expecting better. If a thief gets away with stealing from you, do we stop holding the next robber responsible because your house wasn't the one robbed?

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Your analogy implying we should just NOW, when Trump happens to be in office, enforce the laws of the land we have ignored in the past, is quite a spin on things.

First, in this case Obama didn't have to fire anyone, b/c he put "his boy" in the position without opposition, and it was admitted publicly. Had Sessions stood up and said he was "Trump's Boy" you and others would have lost your minds screaming about the corruption and obstruction.

But second, the more apt analogy is there are two robberies on the same street, one say of a black family, and the other of a rich white family, and only the one of the rich white family gets investigated by the police. It's selective enforcement and it's wrong. Even if the black family was robbed the day prior to the rich white folks. Still wrong.

The left is willing to throw out every foundation principle of our legal system, even the principles of equality before the law and innocence until proven guilty, in order to "get Trump". The ends justifies the means for so many.

Calls to impeach a President b/c he insulted someone? Seriously? Believing he's a Russian agent not b/c he shifts policy (he didn't at all) but b/c he's honest and vocal about things like our allies not holding up their part of treaties?

It's absurd. Obama orders delivery of $4 BILLION in cash to Iran, sets the "reset" button with Putin that brings in hundreds of millions of hard dollars to his regime, and he's not even questioned. Trump calls out our allies who have for decades been lax in their obligations and he's now sent from some plane of Hell to bring down our Constitution. Jeez Louise guys.

I can easily accept that you believe Obama should be investigated. Which as I understand it Barr can very well do at the request of the president. perhaps there is a reason why that has went nowhere other than the spin right wing media puts on things.

And there was (and is) every reason to investigate Trumps dealings. Many in the republican party supported and still support it. I have accepted that attacks on the former administration, Clintons, or even the Bush years have become the go to defense for Mr Trump.

The fact is, and without wanting to have any hard feelings, there is nothing the President can do or say that would be cause for alarm for the apologetic right wing of conservatives. A constant need to defend something is not always indicative of error on the part of the accuser. It is even more likely to be the willing blind eye of the defender.

And personally I believe firmly history will record this era unfavorably with regard to most Republicans and the Trump presidency.
Yet he has skillfully persuaded many that democracy is the enemy and turned them against the United States as it has existed for the last 100 years.
He has successfully divided the nation from within.
And rehashing the same arguments over and over, or loudly beating the drum of contempt for those Americans you disagree with, wont hide that fact from history. I know my history well enough to see the dangerous parallels which are evident everywhere in the world, as well as to most Americans I believe.
And it goes well beyond politics for me.

Democrats in the center like me (and I am center) are not going to stay silent..., and neither will Republicans of like mind, ..forever in the face of the most hate filled political movement in the history of our country. But I do believe my friends here will begin to see the truth before long.

I can easily accept that you believe Obama should be investigated. Which as I understand it Barr can very well do at the request of the president. perhaps there is a reason why that has went nowhere other than the spin right wing media puts on things.

And there was (and is) every reason to investigate Trumps dealings. Many in the republican party supported and still support it. I have accepted that attacks on the former administration, Clintons, or even the Bush years have become the go to defense for Mr Trump.

The fact is, and without wanting to have any hard feelings, there is nothing the President can do or say that would be cause for alarm for the apologetic right wing of conservatives. A constant need to defend something is not always indicative of error on the part of the accuser. It is even more likely to be the willing blind eye of the defender.

And personally I believe firmly history will record this era unfavorably with regard to most Republicans and the Trump presidency.
Yet he has skillfully persuaded many that democracy is the enemy and turned them against the United States as it has existed for the last 100 years.
He has successfully divided the nation from within.
And rehashing the same arguments over and over, or loudly beating the drum of contempt for those Americans you disagree with, wont hide that fact from history. I know my history well enough to see the dangerous parallels which are evident everywhere in the world, as well as to most Americans I believe.
And it goes well beyond politics for me.

Democrats in the center like me (and I am center) are not going to stay silent..., and neither will Republicans of like mind, ..forever in the face of the most hate filled political movement in the history of our country. But I do believe my friends here will begin to see the truth before long.

On the other hand I still believe Ocasio-Cortez is both fencepost dumb and nuts.

But an American. Many old soldiers were fencepost dumb and nuts, yet gave their lives for Freedom and the Flag.

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The fact is, and without wanting to have any hard feelings, there is nothing the President can do or say that would be cause for alarm for the apologetic right wing of conservatives. A constant need to defend something is not always indicative of error on the part of the accuser. It is even more likely to be the willing blind eye of the defender.

And personally I believe firmly history will record this era unfavorably with regard to most Republicans and the Trump presidency.
Yet he has skillfully persuaded many that democracy is the enemy and turned them against the United States as it has existed for the last 100 years.
He has successfully divided the nation from within.
And rehashing the same arguments over and over, or loudly beating the drum of contempt for those Americans you disagree with, wont hide that fact from history. I know my history well enough to see the dangerous parallels which are evident everywhere in the world, as well as to most Americans I believe.
And it goes well beyond politics for me.

Democrats in the center like me (and I am center) are not going to stay silent..., and neither will Republicans of like mind, ..forever in the face of the most hate filled political movement in the history of our country. But I do believe my friends here will begin to see the truth before long.

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You prove your own point. Just as you say those on the right are locked in their views, you are just as locked into yours.

After 2 years and a massive investigation proving all your fears false re Trump, you still think he's convincing us that "democracy is the enemy" and that he's going to declare himself King or something. With absolutely not one single shred of evidence, despite years in office.

How's that for an entrenched view?

I've got years of his administration now proving he's exactly what I said he was in 2016: a boorish personal ass who will not be any more a danger to the US than any other President.

He's divisive? No, he's only divisive b/c he's on the other side from you. For those of us over on this side Obama was the divisive one, it's just no one noticed b/c conservatives don't control the media.

As for this somehow being the "most hate filled movement in the history of this country", sorry but it's not even close. Where's all this "hate" from Trump? Has he called you "deplorable"? Called you a racist for basic ideological beliefs that have nothing to do with race? Called you a Nazi b/c you want some kind of immigration law at all?

Oh, there's a lot of hate right now in this country, but I'm willing to have a big debate about its source.

And in a way Trump is a threat to democracy, but only b/c it has somehow triggered the Left to abandon basic American principles and traditional liberal views of civil liberties and free speech, using various fascist and McCarthyist techniques to try to silence any opposition.

I can provided dozens of examples of those on the Left trying to shut down free speech, hundreds. How many on the right?

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You prove your own point. Just as you say those on the right are locked in their views, you are just as locked into yours.

After 2 years and a massive investigation proving all your fears false re Trump, you still think he's convincing us that "democracy is the enemy" and that he's going to declare himself King or something. With absolutely not one single shred of evidence, despite years in office.

How's that for an entrenched view?

I've got years of his administration now proving he's exactly what I said he was in 2016: a boorish personal ass who will not be any more a danger to the US than any other President.

He's divisive? No, he's only divisive b/c he's on the other side from you. For those of us over on this side Obama was the divisive one, it's just no one noticed b/c conservatives don't control the media.

As for this somehow being the "most hate filled movement in the history of this country", sorry but it's not even close. Where's all this "hate" from Trump? Has he called you "deplorable"? Called you a racist for basic ideological beliefs that have nothing to do with race? Called you a Nazi b/c you want some kind of immigration law at all?

Oh, there's a lot of hate right now in this country, but I'm willing to have a big debate about its source.

And in a way Trump is a threat to democracy, but only b/c it has somehow triggered the Left to abandon basic American principles and traditional liberal views of civil liberties and free speech, using various fascist and McCarthyist techniques to try to silence any opposition.

I can provided dozens of examples of those on the Left trying to shut down free speech, hundreds. How many on the right?

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Talk about entrenched! And in denial at that. :trink39:

Id start with the President of the United States and his followers to include some of craziest right wing fringe conspiracy theorists this country has ever known. Some were at the White House just recently making a mockery of that free speech you mention by the way. From Alex Jones to Gab and QAnon, and the common racist organizations that dont deserve a mention. There are an almost limitless group of anti-American right wing celebrities, dieties, and groups who would at one time not have been tolerated. These groups have been wittingly empowered and equally wish to silence their opponents...and by any means necessary like..driving a car into a crowd of people.

And I am confident if the generation who once defended against such hate and vitriol were still here much right wing and left wing speech would not be tolerated.
Speaking of Germans, many were deceived by a similar nationalist movement, and the subtle move towards white supremacy, a doctrine of hate, and a manipulation of ingrained bias, bigotry, and racism. Instilling fear and distrust of any media which might attempt to explore the dangers of such things with "alternate facts" while cultivating a network of propaganda.

Condemning our courts, electoral process, our longstanding alliances, the media, an entire political base, and any American who might dissent or disagree is cause for alarm. Add to that a large group of people who, absent common sense, dedicate themselves to defending the man using those same tactics and manufactured talking points.

"The far left in this country can be dangerous no doubt, but the equally far right is probably even more so. And many will admit that strait up.

There was a time when no one dared speak the things which have become commonplace. And make no mistake it comes equally from extremes on both sides despite your insistence otherwise. President Trump is your man, whether you believe it or not you have made that abundantly clear.
You are entrenched in your defense of everything he does and attack every opposing view vehemently.

All those fears were not proven false. It was proven that some in the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians, likely to include the President himself, but that collusion was not a crime. (Low down but not criminal, but enough to anger any American who finds it disgusting that the Russians tampered with our elections)

And there was not adequate evidence of conspiracy to bring charges. Kudos Mr. President!

And it was found that the president could not be cleared of obstruction but a sitting president cannot be charged. And that it was left to Congress to decide what to do about it.
...That is easy enough to decipher.

Like I said, on the whole, history will decide. (Not our History)

FWIW, I do agree with you on a lot of points. At least to some extent

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All I can say is your interpretation is askew in my opinion. You’re inferring assumptions that aren’t proven, and never will be other than in your mind. Trump’s race is green IMO. I find it laughable that the left hurls that tag at him. He sees green, money green. He wouldn’t have a Jewish son-in-law if he was truly racist.
His business dealings cross the spectrum of all races, but he is always favorable to the ones that produce “green”.
I seen a funny meme that stated Trump didn’t name anyone in his tweet...and 4 morons spoke up that it was them.
In a nutshell, that is how I see it too and the left always takes the bait.

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Interviews with black and female cabinet members show that they know the accusations or racism and misogyny to be bunk. Ben Carson said he knows racism from his youth growing up in Detroit, and if Trump was racist he would have resigned his HUD position. Carson went on to list all the things Trump is doing in the traditionally minority areas to boost opportunities and jobs for minorities.

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:rolleye0013:
Was Holder also the beneficiary of a firing and subsequent hire at the peak of the investigation of his boss?

Heck, he may have been Im not sure. If so, I'd agree that is pretty shady stuff. :trink39:

But seriously, there is always time to start doing right and expecting better. If a thief gets away with stealing from you, do we stop holding the next robber responsible because your house wasn't the one robbed?

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Holder was in his words Obama’s “wing man” and refused to investigate any of the numerous improprieties during his time as AG. In fact Holder was never held to account for his fast and furious gun running scheme.

Never too late for the acting AG to prosecute him if there is proof of illegal activity. Why wouldn’t they?

They should go all the way back to 2006 and look at its predecessor Operation Wide Receiver.

I have no problem with anyone facing charges for past criminal activity. Wherever the truth leads. But when it isn’t pursued to it’s just conclusion I begin to doubt the veracity of the existing proof before the law. And think perhaps the right ones did suffer the right consequences.

And perhaps the same will be true for this administration in multiple matters

Yeah, I'm the "entrenched one". lol.

Are there right wing "hate" groups? Sure there are. None of them have much of a voice, certainly no input in mainstream media, and no platform other than a dabbling of websites.

Left wing hate groups get CNN specials and endorsements from universities, senior politicians, Hollywood and the mainstream media on a regular basis.

A left winger tried to kill US congressmen, no real outrage. An Antifa member who just was featured on CNN was killed trying to storm a border detention center, barely a raised eyebrow. Let a right winger attack someone and watch the national media panic.

I'm not "Trump's Guy", I'm simply a conservative Libertarian, and that happens to align with many but certainly not all of Trump's policies.

But I do vehemently attack hypocrisy, double standards, and outright political falsehoods wherever I find them, and I find a TON more of them right now coming from the Left, and it's not even close.

When Bush II and the GOP spent like drunken sailors I attacked them. When the GOP Congress for 2 years refused to do what they promised on health care etc. when they had the chance I attacked them.

of course that included the monumental hypocrite John McCain, who you idolize for some reason, but he's a hypocrite. He voted to repeal Obamacare every time he knew it would never mean anything, then the first time it would mean something he bails. That's just pure politics, not morality. He played to his base as long as it was safe, but then bailed when his vote actually counted.

And I called him out, despite being a Republican and war hero.

I've called out the Reagan era policy of releasing many who were mentally ill back into the streets. Called out Bush I and voted for Perot b/c of the "no new taxes" breach of promise.

No, I step across party lines more than most, and Trump really isn't a Republican, he's a Populist. But Populism in part usually wants to blow up the current political process, and I'm all for that, so yes I love watching him put wrenches into the current political machines. Doesn't mean I even like the guy, I don't, he's an ass, but his being such an ass has exposed the duplicity and hypocrisy and the REAL values of the far left of this country, and that I appreciate.

They don't stand for liberty or civil liberties or equality or anything else they claim. They have disavowed them all in the name of opposing Trump, and shown their true colors. They'd ban speech they don't like given the chance, shut down voices that disagree, intimidate through social pressure or threat of violence, and impose their views of what is best and right on everyone regardless of questions of liberty.

You say the right would do that, but there's no proof. In part b/c the Right isn't in charge. but on college campuses and HOllywood etc. where the Left rules we see it happen every day.

There is real empirical proof for my positions on Trump and where the vitriol and hate is coming from, and basically very little if any for your position. That's just the way it is, b/c Antifa is out there committing violence right now on a regular basis, and the KKK, which consists of "a few thousand" members, doesn't do anything but sit around in trailer parks drinking whiskey and complaining about why their lives suck. They do nothing, have no impact at all.

Think about that now. The KKK, the great evil of the far right, has a few thousand members per groups like SPLC, arranged into some few dozen of groups, and Antifa has somewhere in the 200 range of subgroups and no doubt far more total members.

It's just a myth there is a large white, racist extreme right wing out there. It's in the thousands nationally including all the Klan and skinhead groups and the survivalists. It's tiny, and they have no voice, none.

Antifa and BLM get endorsements and meetings with Presidents and Senators, yet the threat and hate is from the Right? Oh please.

I am entrenched. Entrenched in a fundamental belief that individual liberty is more important than the collective state, and everything I talk about on here flows from that premise. Everything I evaluate in political economy is measured by that standard.

What I see is a Left that is so bold about repressing speech and expression and assembly and basic liberty they are putting forth laws to ban words, ban travel, ban everything they don't like. I have never seen a conservative do so with any actual support, but the Left is now getting a real core of support for doing exactly those things.

Trump will only damage this nation's democracy b/c he's the excuse to abandon our liberties.

These constant comparisons to the Nazis are tiresome at best, intellectually insulting at worst. No camp in the US is "like a concentration camp", Trump is not anything close to Hitler.

But if you really want to draw on the rise of the Third Reich and look for signs, it's probably best to liken Trump to the Communists that Hilter used as the justification for his power grab. Hitler demonized the Jews, the Communists as this unseen, vast threat to Germany, and said he had to be elected, and later given emergency powers, to stop it.

Trump is the Reichstag fire, the rallying point for the real fascists to claim the ends justify the means as they shut down opposition and paint anyone who dares disagree with their agenda as a racist sexist homophobe.

Trump is an ass, but he's not going to seize power or nuke NATO or anything else so outlandish, and now getting on 3 years into it I think my position has held up a lot better than yours on who he is and what he will do as President. Likewise, the response by the Left has also been exactly as expected, using Trump to justify a massive shift to a more extreme platform across the board.

We think much differently on the matter. Makes life interesting though.


Very strange coincidence today. And it is not being presented as a talking point for us here, just the unusual timing of the matter.

A Nam vet, or so he said, came in to a shop owned by my cousin and started preaching (and I mean preaching) about democrats and 70 plus thousand sealed indictments the President is holding for Democrats, including the one for Obama, and how Trump already has the special cell assigned for him at GB.



I asked him about the Q that they say the White House verifies researchers finding at the end of the rainbow (according to Q followers and posted GAB articles) He nodded.
A few more wild comments about how at the polls he watches as raggedly dressed Democrats with things hanging off their belt (whatever that meant) sadly trying to figure out how to vote, while every Republican who voted wore a suit and stood proudly at their station.

Said his Daddy, who was a Democrat told him he was a traitor, when he changed parties but he had found that all democrats were awful people and not fit for this country.

I asked if his Dad was really that bad a person and he stopped, made the big eyes look and said.
No, my Daddy is a great man.

I couldn't hold back on the guy and he finally scampered out the door with me letting him know I find such talk un-American.

It was a major shock to my cousin, a Republican candidate for Hardin Co. magistrate the last two races (he came very close twice, and will win next election) who read up on the phenomenon while I was there.

I would check out the numbers before discounting a movement like this. Roseanne Barr and conservative talker Curt Schilling are two more prominent believers.

https://compote.slate.com/images/028...000&offset=0x0

The guy just came back to his shop asking if I had a criminal record. Said he worked in law enforcement and was a warden till he retired and I seemed squirrelly to him. Also asked if his Dad (my uncle) , who he talked to originally was senile or a liar. Swears he was told 90 dollars for a new roll and pleat truck seat cover and foam for his show truck.

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Oh, there are insane people of all political persuasions. I try to avoid them, but they're out there.

The Q thing takes the cake.

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The Q thing takes the cake.

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Q thing?

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Q thing?

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QAnon

Q is the entity supplying all the information. The more “enlightened” followers believe it is an alien from the future who is helping Mr Trump dispose of the deep state. Most widely known belief is seventy some thousand sealed indictments of mostly democrats and the refitting of Guantanamo Bay to jail them
I believe the Queen of England is included as well as the former POTUS, the Bush family, Clinton’s, etc..

Roseanne Barr is the most famous believer. as is Curt Schilling. Closely aligned with Nazi truths about WW2 and other events. Inspired the pizzagate gunman and the New York Synagogue massacre.

Guess Im not the only one awake at this ungodly hour

Donna and I are riding to Ormand Beach with my daughters family. It was a 2:00 AM departure I still haven’t been able to sleep but the free accommodations and trip were something we couldn’t pass up
Paw Paw and Nana will serve as built in sitters a couple of nights.

Speaking of QAnon. There is a huge new billboard just south of Chattanooga going North that reads.

"QAnon..it is freedom"

It may be dangerous to say but...People have gone plum crazy.

Another case of verbal diarrhea from AOC

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...lege-as-a-scam

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Another case of verbal diarrhea from AOC

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...lege-as-a-scam

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Many Republican lawmakers have dismissed the movement. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said earlier this year that the push was "driven by the idea [that] Democrats want rural America to go away politically."

That sums it up pretty well.

The only real threat is this state compact deal, but I hope SCOTUS strikes it down if it goes into effect. it's an end run around the Constitution and the Federalist system. Ironically it's also a violation of the Voting Rights Act, b/c it basically says all their electoral votes go to whoever gets the most votes, not based on how their state's voters voted. It in theory disenfranchises their own voters.

But AOC once again is nuts. I love people who think they are so much smarter than this nations Founders. Who the hell do they think they are? Our system of government was designed by a group that is among the few truly great moments in human history. A rare coming together of great minds, of men loyal to ideas rather than themselves, most of whom lost their fortunes to create this Great Experiment.

Yet these buffoons who are amazed by things like garbage disposals (true) think they know better.

The hubris of the foolish knows no bounds, and it is undoing the master work of some of the greatest of human minds.

AOC thinks she knows more than Madison, Adams, Jefferson, much less men like Locke and Adam Smith. It would be funny if it wasn't so damned sad. I know I would have to study my whole life just to hope to stand in their shadow, she thinks they are to be dismissed and even scorned, and she's far from alone apparently.

The left wants it both ways. House of Rep seats and electoral collage votes are based on population per the census. Liberals want to include illegal aliens in the census to bolster their House of Representative representation, thus increase the power, yet do away with the electoral collage to lessen the influence, ie power of rural America.

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Many Republican lawmakers have dismissed the movement. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said earlier this year that the push was "driven by the idea [that] Democrats want rural America to go away politically."

That sums it up pretty well.

The only real threat is this state compact deal, but I hope SCOTUS strikes it down if it goes into effect. it's an end run around the Constitution and the Federalist system. Ironically it's also a violation of the Voting Rights Act, b/c it basically says all their electoral votes go to whoever gets the most votes, not based on how their state's voters voted. It in theory disenfranchises their own voters.

But AOC once again is nuts. I love people who think they are so much smarter than this nations Founders. Who the hell do they think they are? Our system of government was designed by a group that is among the few truly great moments in human history. A rare coming together of great minds, of men loyal to ideas rather than themselves, most of whom lost their fortunes to create this Great Experiment.

Yet these buffoons who are amazed by things like garbage disposals (true) think they know better.

The hubris of the foolish knows no bounds, and it is undoing the master work of some of the greatest of human minds.

AOC thinks she knows more than Madison, Adams, Jefferson, much less men like Locke and Adam Smith. It would be funny if it wasn't so damned sad. I know I would have to study my whole life just to hope to stand in their shadow, she thinks they are to be dismissed and even scorned, and she's far from alone apparently.

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I am always amazed at how circumstances came to be that the framers of the constitution and bill of rights came together to forge documents that were so perfect, and how thru thentest of time they still seem to be the perfect documents

She has plenty of company at the top 10 of the Political Loon Chart

Trump is afraid of the Squad

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She has plenty of company at the top 10 of the Political Loon Chart

Trump is afraid of the Squad

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Trump isn't afraid of the Squad, he loves them.

He's a lot of things I don't like, but Trump is a master at trolling, and he's constantly trolling the extreme of the DNC b/c he wants them to be the face of the their party for the election. he wants all the cameras on "The Squad" and to make a vote for GOP opponents a vote for them, b/c they're as popular in middle America as a bastard at a family reunion.

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Trump isn't afraid of the Squad, he loves them.

He's a lot of things I don't like, but Trump is a master at trolling, and he's constantly trolling the extreme of the DNC b/c he wants them to be the face of the their party for the election. he wants all the cameras on "The Squad" and to make a vote for GOP opponents a vote for them, b/c they're as popular in middle America as a bastard at a family reunion.

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Exactly...most democrats do not hold the same philosophies as those idiots but they will show solidarity. Trump will use that to paint all liberal with that brush. It is smart politically. He certainly does not fear them. In fact he loves them. They are a tool for him

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Exactly...most democrats do not hold the same philosophies as those idiots but they will show solidarity. Trump will use that to paint all liberal with that brush. It is smart politically. He certainly does not fear them. In fact he loves them. They are a tool for him

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It's a gift for him. Running against Pelosi and Schumer is fine but they're green peppers compared to the habaneros and ghost chilis that are the Squad.

That's why Pelosi et al in the leadership want them to shut up. It's partly their fault for putting them on key committees. Why would you put a person who is staunchly anti-israel and arguably anti-Semitic on the Foreign Affairs committee? Put them on something as mundane as possible, like Science and Industry.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-...ng-mac-cheese/

I am not sure how we managed to survive the opening of the Egyptian tombs or the archeological work being done in the Mayan cities. It also seems to be a miracle that we haven't pumped hundreds of deadly pathogens to the surface from the Ogallala Aquifer. That water is thousands of years old you know. :evilgrin0007:

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I am not sure how we managed to survive the opening of the Egyptian tombs or the archeological work being done in the Mayan cities. It also seems to be a miracle that we haven't pumped hundreds of deadly pathogens to the surface from the Ogallala Aquifer. That water is thousands of years old you know. :evilgrin0007:

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What, didn't you watch "The Andromeda Strain"? Space travel nearly led to extinction of the earth, and would have had it not been for a crying baby and an old dude eating sterno

She really needs to get out more. Her concern about mosquitoes moving north is an idiots viewpoint. She said that we need to be concerned about them carrying diseases north throughout the USA. She should have taken a canoe trip in the boundary waters canoe wilderness with me 50 years ago. The dang brown and grizly bears slept under mosquito nets in the summer. Seems like she thinks mosquito are currently a southern problem. They probably can't live in all the New York smog.

Texas city's Green New Deal experiment

oooops

https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/a...0e31e6a4c.html

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https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/a...0e31e6a4c.html

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So a straight pride parade is "white supremaist"? How exactly are those two intertwined? And why is it OK to have gay pride but not straight pride? And why must straight people be tolerant of gay people but not vice versa? I don't recall any violence at any gay pride parades. I think who is not tolerant is obvious

AOC fires back after Rep. Steve King posts video of himself drinking water from sink at detention center

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc...anti-immigrant

So is she

1) clueless on how "pink eye" is transmitted? This is sort of like claiming you got crabs from a toilet seat.

2) suggesting that illegal immigrants are disease infested (how it would be painted if Trump uttered this idiocy)

3) so naive as to believe that somebody would "stretch the truth"? She saw nobody drinking from a toilet, only told they did, yet multiple people have refuted it.

I hear garbage disposals can give you pink eye.

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This is sort of like claiming you got crabs from a toilet seat.

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This could happen if the toilet was at the beach.