Re: OT: Kentucky high school removes gay basketball player from yearbook page
The obvious contention is between the school system and the reporting agency pursuing the young man's case against them. There are accusations from both sides against each other. Such publicly and officialy shared contention has never been evident that I recall between the NCAA and UK. If it were I am sure there would have been official inquiries of the NCAA and it's practices.
Just to be sure, I am only playing devils advocate here. There is little difference in the logic being applied imho.
That is, if one does not start out with a preconceived opinion. Then logic doesn't apply at all.
It may be that the question should be, who in this situation assumes the role of the NCAA, and who of UK?
Re: OT: Kentucky high school removes gay basketball player from yearbook page
I think both sides are reasonable, I just am against suggesting that one side is not reasonable. I understand that some may see this as an innocent mistake, I just don't see it that way. If it happened to _____ ______, the senior starting center, I would see it as more of an innocent mistake, when it happens to a person who has had a problem with administration, I see it as less than an innocent mistake.
Darrell, as far as the articles go, is it the reporters lack of naming his 3 sources other than the accuser that makes you doubt his veracity? I am just wondering because having 3 sources and the 911 call being classified as a report of "terroristic threat", makes me lean towards believing the accuser over the school. Sure the article is slanted, but it seems that there was at least an effort to come up with sources and corroboration. The difference between this story and the John Calipari example you use, is that the Cal stuff never has any actual sources, 1 source, or something as concrete at a 911 call. Do you doubt the Parrish story about Cal from last week about him confronting the coach accusing him of cheating, because Parrish doesn't name the sources, but claims he had at least 5 sources back up this story, but he names none of them. So do you doubt the veracity of Parrish's story because it doesn't have named sources? I would have more doubt about the story if the reporter didn't claim to have sources and have the 911 call, but he does. Its no real skin off my back, and I just am wanting to better understand where you are coming from here as to the veracity of the story.
Re: OT: Kentucky high school removes gay basketball player from yearbook page
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MTcatfan
I think both sides are reasonable, I just am against suggesting that one side is not reasonable. I understand that some may see this as an innocent mistake, I just don't see it that way. If it happened to _____ ______, the senior starting center, I would see it as more of an innocent mistake, when it happens to a person who has had a problem with administration, I see it as less than an innocent mistake.
Darrell, as far as the articles go, is it the reporters lack of naming his 3 sources other than the accuser that makes you doubt his veracity? I am just wondering because having 3 sources and the 911 call being classified as a report of "terroristic threat", makes me lean towards believing the accuser over the school. Sure the article is slanted, but it seems that there was at least an effort to come up with sources and corroboration. The difference between this story and the John Calipari example you use, is that the Cal stuff never has any actual sources, 1 source, or something as concrete at a 911 call. Do you doubt the Parrish story about Cal from last week about him confronting the coach accusing him of cheating, because Parrish doesn't name the sources, but claims he had at least 5 sources back up this story, but he names none of them. So do you doubt the veracity of Parrish's story because it doesn't have named sources? I would have more doubt about the story if the reporter didn't claim to have sources and have the 911 call, but he does. Its no real skin off my back, and I just am wanting to better understand where you are coming from here as to the veracity of the story.
I look at it from the perspective that only one side of the story is being reported.
Re: OT: Kentucky high school removes gay basketball player from yearbook page
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KeithKSR
I look at it from the perspective that only one side of the story is being reported.
The school's side of the story was report and linked in the original article LINK and (LINK). You just had to click on it to find it.
Here is their story for those who feel like you and do not believe that side is being reported.
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"Today my office has been contacted by several media outlets asking for our response to an allegation made in an article on the Outsports.com website. According to the author, there was an organized and deliberate attempt by school staff to omit an individual student athlete's picture from the yearbook because the student athlete had publicly announced that he was gay.
"A district level administrator was assigned to conduct an inquiry into the allegation and report his findings directly to me. Yes, the individual picture for the student athlete was omitted from the school's basketball section through error. According to the photographer, the student athlete did have his picture taken along with other team members but he requested the digital file be sent to him for approval and editing and she did comply with his request. The file was returned by the student athlete to the photographer but the file that was sent by the photographer to the school did to not contain a photo for this specific student athlete. During the review process at the school which involved several different individuals the omission was not found.
"As to the assertion there was a deliberate attempt to harass the student athlete by omitting his photograph from the yearbook, that claim is totally false and without merit. The student appears in the yearbook in fifteen separate photos. The photos are both group and individual and one is a Senior Superlative for School Spirit. There are also several photos of the student athlete taken during basketball games. We do acknowledge that none of these images may be as meaningful to the student athlete as his individual basketball picture and we apologize to him and his family for the error.
"During this research we discovered that a very limited number of omissions occurred in other schools in our district with the 2014-2015 yearbook. To resolve these unintentional errors, I have directed that any pages where omissions occurred be reprinted as inserts. Any individual who purchased a yearbook and wishes a copy of the insert will be able to obtain one from our office. Expect additional information about that in the near future.
"We teach our students that when you make a mistake that you acknowledge your error, express regret and if possible, correct your actions. We can't expect our children to learn these lessons if we don't model them."
I do not believe that either explanation is unreasonable. I do believe one is more likely. I typically am one to give an accused the benefit of the doubt, just my nature do to so. However in this case, based on the publicity that occurred prior to the publication of the yearbook, I find a simple omission difficult to believe. It's not unreasonable, just difficult given the circumstances