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It's officially the 21st of May... and 21 hours until the two-hour premiere of the return of Twin Peaks.
Then immediately following the premiere, the next two hours, or parts as Lynch prefers titling them, will be available on demand.
That's four of the eighteen hours produced for this "limited series", which Kyle MacLachlan alluded to at last night's world premiere in Hollywood as "likely" more than just this one season. He did admit that was just going on a vibe from his interactions with David Lynch and Mark Frost, the show's co-creators.
I've been waiting 27 years for this (although the characters have only aged 25 years). I've recently re-watched the entire series and Fire Walk With Me, just finishing up yesterday, and now I am SO ready to see what's next in the World of Twin Peaks.
"It is Happening Again."
Indeed.
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Less than two hours away...
Peakers from ALL over are losing their damned minds...
which includes myself...
not that such wasn't already common knowledge.
"The Owls are NOT What They Seem."
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Twin Peaks Parts 3 & 4 (two hours together, but can be accessed through streaming or On Demand as separate hours) will be broadcast tonight at 9 PM ET on Showtime.
I have already seen them, but plan on watching them again tonight.
The four hours I have seen thus far of this return to Twin Peaks have been mind-blowing. So much so that I am still digesting it. The first two hours were so fascinating, possibly THE most fascinating I have ever seen on television, that I was in a near state of shock, or something like that, for a number of days.
Lynch clearly understood how much we old school Peakers had been anticipating the return.
And BOY did he bring the goods.
So far, just as it has always been, it is extremely interesting... and mysterious of course.
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Still think I should edit this thread title since it doesn't discuss Firefly or anything to do with Star Trek. ;)
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Still think I should edit this thread title since it doesn't discuss Firefly or anything to do with Star Trek. ;)
Star Trek - that's the Darth Vader thing, right?
(ducking)
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Part 5 on tonight @ 9pm ET.
It's been almost two weeks since I first watched Part 4 so I'm stoked for some new weirditude from Lynch. So far the new series has been amazing.
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Part 6 had a VERY interesting answer to one of Twin Peaks' oldest "little" mysteries. Really enjoyed that and it's got me anticipating Part 7 this Sunday night at 9 pm ET on Showtime.
Also, I just found this cool Playboy interview with Madchen Amick (who portrays Twin Peaks' iconic "Shelley Johnson", super beautiful waitress from the Double R Diner).
It's spoiler free, including the already-posted-on-this-thread trailer that appears on Playboy's webpage for the interview...
http://www.playboy.com/articles/madc...-peaks-profile
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Incredible episode tonight. SO much to digest. I may have to watch it again before bed. LOTS of set ups for the Part 8.
Still can't believe Twin Peaks is back. Fun times!
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Got this from one of the primary Twin Peaks' fan sites (i.e. approved by Lynch and Frost)...
"Tonight's Part 8 is 'like no other,' warns cinematographer Peter Deming. According to Kyle MacLachlan, it includes something David Lynch worked on for days without telling anyone."
Looking forward to tonight's episode also because the last one was one of the most key parts in the entire show, thus it sets up this one with a lot of intrigue.
One note for those who may have forgotten or did not know... "Part 9" will NOT appear next week. The show is not broadcasting on July 2nd due to the holiday, thus "Part 9" airs on Sunday, July 9th.
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Got this from one of the primary Twin Peaks' fan sites (i.e. approved by Lynch and Frost)...
"Tonight's Part 8 is 'like no other,' warns cinematographer Peter Deming. According to Kyle MacLachlan, it includes something David Lynch worked on for days without telling anyone."
Looking forward to tonight's episode also because the last one was one of the most key parts in the entire show, thus it sets up this one with a lot of intrigue.
One note for those who may have forgotten or did not know... "Part 9" will NOT appear next week. The show is not broadcasting on July 2nd due to the holiday, thus "Part 9" airs on Sunday, July 9th.
WOW, did the above ever turn out to be true!
Over the years, I have often told friends that the last hour of the original Twin Peaks was the single weirdest AND coolest thing I had ever seen on television.
So far, the NEW Twin Peaks has eclipsed that FOUR (maybe five?) times when considering each part (each hour) of the show.
Last night blew them ALL away, including definitive influence from a very specific source, my personal fave movie EVER, Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Just as Lynch and his art have often been misunderstood through the years, Kubrick's art has had the same "problem", at least for those unprepared to be surprised by, and/or simply do not like being challenged by, what I call "deep art".
There's a semi-legendary story about Woody Allen who, despite what we have learned about him over the years vis-a-vis his "love interests" and how distasteful that aspect of his life has been to the public, was at one time considered one of the leading filmmakers, worldwide, when it comes to material that has a lot of deep thought put into it. At the very least, he has always been known as a VERY strong intellect in the world of film.
Funny thing is, the first time he watched 2001, he HATED it, lol, because he didn't understand it, wasn't ready for it, etc. Well, that was not at all an uncommon reaction. Kubrick had fans and haters of all of his most challenging works, Dr. Strangelove, A Clockwork Orange, and 2001 in particular. Some years later, Allen was beleaguered by a friend to watch Kubrick's masterpiece again during a theatrical revival of it in LA, if my recollection is correct. On the second viewing, he LOVED it and thought it was one of the greatest films he had ever seen.
I was thinking about this when I was glued to the truly "crazy" visuals AND audio in last night's Twin Peaks, which included a piece by Polish avant-garde classical composer Krzysztof Penderecki.
Like the "notorious" transformation sequence in 2001, Lynch explores visuals that, while no doubt integral, ultimately, to connecting past and future plot points, are wildly original, unpredictable, and "not interested" in the typically narrow-focused linear storytelling that dictates 99.99999 % of all realms of art and music that also function as "entertainment", i.e a money-making enterprise. The music was so reminiscent of the eerie, dark, dissonant part of 2001's soundtrack for the above described sequence, composed by Hungarian avant-garde classical composer, Gyorgy Ligeti, that I really thought it WAS Ligeti.
I love seeing those influences of art on other art, particularly when you have a TRUE master like Lynch, who STILL has the understanding of what HE is looking for so that what he creates remains unquestionably unique, at least in art history or aesthetic philosophy.
One other interesting note, connecting Kubrick to Lynch, comes from a story by Duwayne Dunham, the wonderful editor of BOTH Twin Peaks AND Star Wars (don't recall which, if not all, of Star Wars Parts 4, 5, and 6 that he was included as editor, but it was a great gig for him either way and couldn't have been more different from what he did with Lynch).
He has claimed that, while working on Star Wars with Lucas in LA back in the day, that Lucas got a call from Kubrick and he invited the two of them over for dinner (I think) and to watch this incredible movie he had become obsessed with. Dunham has said (paraphrasing) that Kubrick told them he had watched this movie DOZENS (like 40 times or something insane like that, lol) of times during the past week and that he believed it was the greatest film he had ever laid eyes on.
The film had been directed by Lynch... his very first movie, made while he was IN film school at UCLA... Eraserhead.
For whatever reason, that AMAZED me when I first heard it, but then it made more sense later.
I believe guys like Kubrick and Lynch are such deeply invested artists, with SO much attention being paid to detail and composition in their own creations, that they can turn into "fanboys" of other art that challenges them because it makes them question their aesthetic biases and/or proclivities. To me, that is the essence of why great art MUST evolve for it to matter in the long run. It must, at least SOMEtimes, truly challenge what both artists and those who appreciate art come into a viewing or listening of a piece with "trained" expectations, i.e. HOW things are expected to be laid out for them to ingest without thought or question of what, why, and how it exists, etc.
Anyway, just wanted to share my thoughts after viewing the most recent episode ("part") of what continues to be, BY FAR, the most challenging television program ever conceived or broadcast (which I consider to be as close to an objectively aesthetic fact as I can state without a second thought), whether anyone actually likes the show or not.
Twin Peaks challenges EVERYone who takes it in. For some, that's not a good thing. I feel sorry for those folks, but that's how I personally see it and I understand if others can't, or don't want to, "get there". For me, that challenge is truly one of the primary reasons that I am happy to be alive at this moment in history and is so affecting to me, that it can make me forget, however temporarily, the troubles of the World or those of my own, personally.
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Reminder: Twin Peaks will not be broadcasting "Part 9" of the new show, as would be normal, tonight, due to the Independence Day weekend.
Now there IS currently a marathon of the original Twin Peaks on one of the Showtime channels as I type this, and of course you could stream it or get in On Demand from the beginning.
Meanwhile I need to try to deal with the lack of a new part tonight and fight withdrawal from "Lack of Lynch". I think I will watch everything from this new season, thus far, to be ready for Part 9 next Sunday night. I truly ALWAYS see things I missed before with repeat viewings of any Twin Peaks parts or episodes or the film.
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Totally stoked for Part 9 tonight.
Not sure how Lynch is going to follow probably the wildest episode I have seen in the show's history, but one never has to worry. It will be interesting always, but some plot lines are coming to a head and I am guessing (wildly at that) some answers are coming to some pertinent questions.
Hard to tell though because Lynch is NOT shy about opening doors that his audience had no idea existed, thus he could do more of that tonight as well.
Part 9's end will be the midway point of this 18-part season, in actual film time, not necessarily calendar time, and it's already been a fascinating ride. Starting next week, though, Twin Peaks will be up against the debut of the new season of Game of Thrones, which will get back into it's normal Sunday, 9 pm, slot on HBO.
I loves me some GoT, but it'll have to wait to be watched AFTER Twin Peaks in my household.
Priorities.
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Part 9 had a lot of key plot points engaged, albeit more "quietly" than did Part 8.
Looking forward to Twin Peaks Part 10 tonight with the same friends I typically watch with.
Afterwards, we will watch the first episode of the much-anticipated Season 7 of Game of Thrones.
Fun night!
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I've noticed that there is a lot of anticipation of for Part 12 after Part 11's tendency to muddy some waters and set up some new plot threads as well as continuing the line of some others.
All roads lead to Twin Peaks, geographically it would seem, as we get deeper into the second half of this Return.
I am stoked as usual and have the same two friends coming over to watch that I get every week.
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Lucky Part 13 starts tonight at a NEW time... 8 pm ET on Showtime for Twin Peaks.
Getting set to re-watch Part 12...
a ritual that has helped me see things not seen in a first viewing, but particularly helpful watched near to the broadcast of the new episode.
Been thinking about it all day. It will, as always, NOT disappoint.
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I guess I'm going to have to figure out how to binge watch the entire series and see what I've been missing. Was it a Showtime original?
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I guess I'm going to have to figure out how to binge watch the entire series and see what I've been missing. Was it a Showtime original?
The original Twin Peaks was broadcast on ABC, but now Showtime has it all including the film, Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me, which must be watched AFTER the original Season 2 and BEFORE the new 18 part series, which Showtime has titled "Twin Peaks The Return" so that it is understood to be the new series. Lynch simply titles both TV shows Twin Peaks, i.e. that's what's in the credits.
Whatever you do, completely avoid Showtime's batch of trailers at this point because one of them has a three-minute summary of the original series and is nothing but a bunch of spoilers, but the real problem with watching it is that it's the ultimate show NOT to get a three minute vibe on. It would make the rest of the show impossible to understand with so many details left out.
Twin Peaks is the ultimate show wherein the devil is in the details.
Just a word to the wise. And I know you ARE wise, bossman...
at least sometimes (insert winky icon here).
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Still digesting the terrific Part 14 from Sunday. Lots of connections for advancing plot lines and, as usual, plenty of little surprises.
Twin Peaks NEVER disappoints.
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Part 15 is on tonight at 8 pm ET on Showtime.
Including tonight's episode, there remains only 4 more parts, with the last two parts broadcast together as a two-hour finale on September 3rd.
So these last four parts should be pretty intense and involved as there have been a LOT of story threads that have been pointing toward SOME sort of resolution...
or NOT, lol... never can tell with David Lynch OR Twin Peaks.
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Tonight's Part 16 of Twin Peaks should be crucial to set up next week's Parts 17 and 18, which will be presented all at once as a two hour season finale.
There are still SO many complicated story lines going that, inevitably, some will get closer to tying up OR moving forward in a different direction.
As usual, I expect the UNusual.
Can't wait!
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As expected, Part 16 was FULL of relevant plot thread advancements, thus leading to tonight's TWO HOUR FINALE of Twin Peaks (The Return), i.e. Parts 17 and 18.
Historically, Twin Peaks has been INCREDIBLE when it comes to season endings. The original series' first season ended with MANY cliffhangers, with the last one of that episode being, at the time, the single greatest cliffhanger I had ever seen on television. THEN, once I saw the end of Season 2 (which we fans ALL believed was THE end of the show forever, at that time), THAT ending became the greatest cliffhanger ever. At the time, some folks were bewildered by it because almost nobody imagined how that original series would end, but I loved it because it was TRULY the perfect ending, based on how the "world of" Twin Peaks had been portrayed up until that point.
So expect the unexpected and expect NOTHING, meaning very very little will likely be easily predictable. Lynch had to write it in such a way that, at the very least, a myriad of plot lines will have to be advanced, possibly resolved, or left to hang until a theoretical Season 2 (fingers crossed), but as to how that will all be laid out in an aesthetic sense, good luck guessing.
I have a plan to watch with the same buddy I have been watching with since the beginning and we intend to, ahem, partake of something "enjoyable" to enhance the evening. I heartily recommend the same to anyone reading this thread.
All roads lead to Twin Peaks, and these last two parts will LIKELY be set in the actual town wherein mysteries MIGHT be solved while others begin anew.
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Still not sure why this thread title has been allowed to remain and it's not about Firefly or even Star Trek.
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It's going to take me a little time to process all that was presented in last night's two-hour season finale of Twin Peaks.
Not only were so many plot threads tied, some into more neatly fastened loops, others weaved into ever tighter knots, but the great cliffhanger was there.
Which leads, inexorably to a Season Two.
Showtime better make that announcement soon or there will be a LOTTA pissed Peakers.
Last night's finale was, as expected, magnificent. As Kyle McLachlan described many weeks ago... relating the experience of working with Lynch and portraying such an interesting character with so many demands on range, context, and style... last night was two hours of "moving art", challenging viewers, peeling off layers and layers of depth in this series' natural progression to open wider that otherness that only Twin Peaks can seek and find.
Answers came... and went, and the questions multiplied, all geographical roads leading to Twin Peaks and "the darkness in these woods".
I couldn't help imagining McLachlan watching the finale for a few passing moments while I was knee deep into Lynch's world of "dreamers who live inside a dream" last night. He has insisted that he never watches the show any other way than "completely alone and in the dark", with not even family being present. As "Agent Cooper", McLachlan is THE star of this show, unquestionably, and the ONLY actor who was allowed to read the entire script, while other performers, held as all cast and crew were, to a promise of total blackout silence as to the parts they played or ANYthing that happened during the filming of the show, only knew their bits and nothing more.
Yet even McLachlan REALLY wasn't completely sure how Lynch would put it all together. How surreal it must be to at once be privy to the inner workings of an artistic genius, but to see oneself be so well placed as the most vital instrument used in the production of a piece as complex and ahead of it's time as Twin Peaks is. Trust me, Kyle is every bit the fan that us long-term viewing fans all are. The level that such a "happening" between artists and audience approaches such congruency is perhaps the most telling quality of what Lynch has achieved. For me, it's one of those rare moments in art appreciation that yields a truly unique feeling.
Can't wait to watch the finale again and, not long after, watch all 18 parts from beginning to end... again and again and again.
I hope others have enjoyed the show. I have enjoyed sharing my experience of the return of Twin Peaks. Here's hoping for many more returns.
Peace.