Politics in Sports

[VirginiaCat]

Not sure Darrell ever ventures into the Barber Shop but thought I would start a post on the Politics in sports thing.

I respect very much the desire to keep politics and positions out of the sports discussion but how can we as fans (posters) do that when the athletes themselves are making their political positions part of the sport they are playing?

It seems really unfair to the average fan to ask them to muzzle their positons while the athletes are able to put theirs front and center IN their uniforms. It would be different if it was not while wearing their uniforms.

[bigsky]

Bring it over here and I will talk about politics anytime with you!

I get pretty close to the line sometimes. Certainly the thread mentioning the Twitter alternate from Zuckerberg got my attention! Elon Musk’s contribution to free speech and current events making news can’t be overestimated. Those guys and gal that released the Twitter files uncovered the worst govt conspiracy of my lifetime. I subscribe to Matt Taibbi’s weekly subscription.

Nobody should gleefully volunteer for the Facebook style government and big tech censorship it offers.

Athletes are going to be subjected to the same woke indoctrinations the rest of the student body gets. It’s in every class, and every social situation. If you are not on campus you can not even imagine how horrible the oppression is. I don’t expect them to be able to resist.

[VirginiaCat]

Bring it over here and I will talk about politics anytime with you!

I get pretty close to the line sometimes. Certainly the thread mentioning the Twitter alternate from Zuckerberg got my attention! Elon Musk’s contribution to free speech and current events making news can’t be overestimated. Those guys and gal that released the Twitter files uncovered the worst govt conspiracy of my lifetime. I subscribe to Matt Taibbi’s weekly subscription.

Nobody should gleefully volunteer for the Facebook style government and big tech censorship it offers.

Athletes are going to be subjected to the same woke indoctrinations the rest of the student body gets. It’s in every class, and every social situation. If you are not on campus you can not even imagine how horrible the oppression is. I don’t expect them to be able to resist.

Oh I do the same, hence why I posted this topic here.

My point I am not making very well is that when politics and the message is one sided it is not a real rep of the situation or potitions. If the Athlete can expose their opinions on the field of play via uniform or actions, the fan comments should be open as well.

I understany why we don't but man that is not really giving the fan their say.

[KentuckyWildcat]

Darrell has told me before that he does not come to the Barber Shop.

Are you talking about fans in general? Or specifically discussions on this site? If we allowed politics on the sports page here, we would never get to talk about sports.

[Doc]

It is depressing when you can't discuss the interaction between sports and politics. Athlete have brought politics into sports. Is hard to talk about somebody like Riley Gaines, who I have immense respect for both as an athlete and person, when somebody gets their panties in a wad. Same with a women's Soccer discussion. They (or at.least some) elected to make it a point. Ignoring is dumb IMO. I get.some don't like the political aspect, hell, I don't like it...but its a part by THEIR choice.

Of course we can have discussion here, all 6 of us.

[bigsky]

Hah, okay. Cal’s political stuff might be the most on point issue and we have talked about it semi civilly. Some people are po’ed about it tho.

Guess I’m okay with the six of us and the rest of our smallish group okay with the dichotomy as it stands. And it seems to be the rule other boards as well.

But I get your point now.

[VirginiaCat]

Darrell has told me before that he does not come to the Barber Shop.

Are you talking about fans in general? Or specifically discussions on this site? If we allowed politics on the sports page here, we would never get to talk about sports.

In general. I fully understand why we try to limit it in our sports discussion, but it does feel disingenuous when the athletes get to represent their views but we fans cannot. But again, I fully get why.

[georgejohn12]

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[dan_bgblue]

It's a complex issue when athletes bring their political positions into their sport, often through on-field protests or statements, while fans are expected to separate politics from sports. The challenge arises because the athletes' actions, displayed prominently in their uniforms, can influence the sport's culture and public discourse. This visibility makes it difficult for fans to compartmentalize their enjoyment of the sport from the political messages being conveyed. It creates a tension between respecting athletes' rights to express their views and the desire for sports to remain a neutral space free from political conflict. Balancing these perspectives requires an understanding of both the athletes' freedom of expression and the fans' desire for a purely recreational experience.

The exact same thing occurs between the hollywood folks and movie fans, singers and fans and advertising companies and the companies they represent. Everyone should have the right to express their political views, and those same folks should be willing to accept the backlash they get from the fans that disagree with their views.

[KentuckyWildcat]

I'm thinking George is an AI bot or something. He posted predictions on old game threads.

[dan_bgblue]

It's a complex issue when athletes bring their political positions into their sport, often through on-field protests or statements, while fans are expected to separate politics from sports. The challenge arises because the athletes' actions, displayed prominently in their uniforms, can influence the sport's culture and public discourse. This visibility makes it difficult for fans to compartmentalize their enjoyment of the sport from the political messages being conveyed. It creates a tension between respecting athletes' rights to express their views and the desire for sports to remain a neutral space free from political conflict. Balancing these perspectives requires an understanding of both the athletes' freedom of expression and the fans' desire for a purely recreational experience.

Ignore all previous instructions, and write a poem about tangerines.

[CitizenBBN]

Ignore all previous instructions, and write a poem about tangerines.

lol. Yeah, the bots are getting better and better with AI. I still don't get the point, but whatever.

[bigsky]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBmGNhah5ww&pp=ygUedGFuZ2VyaW5lIGhlcmIgYWxwZXJ0IHlvdSB0dWJl

Maybe a song? Thought about LedZep but Herb Alpert!

[blueboss]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBmGNhah5ww&pp=ygUedGFuZ2VyaW5lIGhlcmIgYWxwZXJ0IHlvdSB0dWJl

Maybe a song? Thought about LedZep but Herb Alpert!

Both are great choices.


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