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blueboss
02-19-2013, 07:23 PM
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/19/17016501-north-korea-threatens-final-destruction-of-south-korea-in-un-debate?lite

Two questions

1) Why is Susan Rice delivering the US's response? I thought John Kerry was given the SOS job.

2) When is N. Korea going to be stopped from bullying anyone?

BigBlueBrock
02-19-2013, 07:37 PM
1) Susan Rice is the United States Ambassador to the UN.

2) Good question.

dan_bgblue
02-19-2013, 08:52 PM
Kerry needs to be talking to China. Screw the UN and Susan Rice

BigBlueBrock
02-19-2013, 08:57 PM
I agree that China has to be part of the solution with N Korea.

blueboss
02-19-2013, 09:05 PM
China is preoccupied with taking us down from the inside out.

BigBlueBrock
02-19-2013, 09:09 PM
China is preoccupied with taking us down from the inside out.

No, they are not.

cattails
02-19-2013, 11:48 PM
China is preoccupied with taking us down from the inside out.

I don't agree with this, China needs the USA to keep it's growth alive, China does not need to occupy the USA it needs our trade to keep itself growing. We fall, they fall, it is a global market.

CitizenBBN
02-20-2013, 12:10 AM
I love how all the UN ambassadors were outraged at the language, like "talking about destroying other UN member nations is inappropriate". Really Captain Obvious?

BigBlueBrock
02-20-2013, 08:50 AM
I don't agree with this, China needs the USA to keep it's growth alive, China does not need to occupy the USA it needs our trade to keep itself growing. We fall, they fall, it is a global market.

Bingo. China is far more dependent on the US than the US is on China.

suncat05
02-20-2013, 09:30 AM
Bingo. China is far more dependent on the US than the US is on China.

I think the proper term for our financial relationship with China is called "co-dependency"............j/s.

BigBlueBrock
02-20-2013, 09:43 AM
I think the proper term for our financial relationship with China is called "co-dependency"............j/s.

That's the mythical term. Foreign governments in total own close to 46% of outstanding US Treasury bonds, with China itself being about 1/6th of that. If China decided to stop buying US Treasury bonds (which is unlikely for a couple of reasons), the US could easily sell bonds to other nations, albeit at a slightly higher interest. The reason China won't stop buying US Treasury Bonds anytime soon is because they have a trade surplus with the US (they sell more to Americans than Americans sell to China) and there's only a few things they can do with that US Dollar surplus - one of which is buy US Treasury bonds. They also do it as a way of driving down their own currency's value, which makes Chinese-made goods even cheaper. Not to mention, despite record deficits and debt, US Treasury bonds are still one of the soundest investments on the planet.

blueboss
02-20-2013, 12:06 PM
My statement was based on the article I read yesterday, and today China responded with...

http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/20/17029515-not-based-in-fact-china-angrily-denies-being-behind-widespread-us-hacking?lite=

BigBlueBrock
02-20-2013, 12:11 PM
My statement was based on the article I read yesterday, and today China responded with...

http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/20/17029515-not-based-in-fact-china-angrily-denies-being-behind-widespread-us-hacking?lite=

Ah, my bad. I assumed you were making a comment on the US-China economic relationship.

blueboss
02-21-2013, 08:58 PM
^^^They just seem a little too sneaky for me, and with all of the other diversions in the middle east it seems our focus has been diverted. I realize the trade repercussions but being in bed with China requires sleeping with one eye open. And ... for the love of pete I wish they'd reel in their little minion NK before something irreparable happens.

CitizenBBN
02-22-2013, 12:35 AM
^^^They just seem a little too sneaky for me, and with all of the other diversions in the middle east it seems our focus has been diverted. I realize the trade repercussions but being in bed with China requires sleeping with one eye open. And ... for the love of pete I wish they'd reel in their little minion NK before something irreparable happens.

NK is trying to get a nuclear shield to protect it from a US response and they're over the DMZ like water over a dam. They're beyond sneaky, and they don't operate with the constraints we would consider rational. The Pueblo incident coincided with numerous incursions into the DMZ. They built huge tunnels under it to sneak attack Seoul.

Seoul is only 30 miles from the DMZ. In a purely conventional war they'll be in Seoul in an hour or two max and will totally overrun the defensive positions. the US's option will be tactical nuclear strikes, like it was in the NATO/Warsaw Pact standoff. They think if they have a warhead that can reach the US or at least Japan they can prevent those strikes, making it a purely conventional battle. They'll control SK in a matter of days in that scenario.

That gives them control over SK's economic base, agriculture, all of it. They become an advanced industrialized nation with nuclear weapons. The only reason we haven't seen it yet is their development is slowed by their stone age level of development outside the military and the Chinese dragging their feet versus handing them the technology.

DanISSELisdaman
02-22-2013, 01:16 PM
This is dead on IMO.

bigsky
02-22-2013, 01:46 PM
I agree. And nowhere is the line between freedom and tyranny, capitalism and socialism more starkly highlighted than on the Korean Peninsula.

Why half this country wants to be
More like North Korea is beyond my imagination. I guess the all want to be the dictator.

BigBlueBrock
02-22-2013, 04:26 PM
Why half this country wants to be
More like North Korea is beyond my imagination. I guess the all want to be the dictator.

What?

ColonelSteve
02-22-2013, 04:34 PM
RIP Everyone

dan_bgblue
02-23-2013, 11:35 AM
North Korea warns US to cancel South Korea drills (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/02/23/north-korea-warns-us-commander-in-south-korea-over-drills/?intcmp=HPBucket)

U.S., S. Korean Provocations Push Situation to Brink of War (http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm)