CitizenBBN
04-05-2022, 10:28 AM
They are the victims of real atrocities beyond even the normal atrocities of war.
And the US is largely to blame. We had it within our power for multiple administrations to prevent this travesty. Obama allowing the annexation of the Crimea with no real response, Trump taking some action but not nearly enough, and Biden basically giving Russia a green light when they started moving troops instead of responding quickly and decisively by arming and or putting troops in Ukraine.
For years we refused to arm them with lethal weapons, didn't want to anger Russia by going too far, and this is the result.
The rest of the blame is on Europe, mostly Germany, for not wanting to lose access to Russian oil and gas for not taking more action in all of Eastern Europe to create real military hegemony with Russia in those countries.
Those people are suffering due to limp, pathetic non-action by the West, largely due to a complete absence of American action.
Hey, remember when Obama and his ilk scoffed at Romney for saying Russia was a threat? Yeah, they sure are smart those guys. The "Reset with Russia" that Obama and Hillary and Biden created has sure gone well hasn't it? it put Russia back on its feet, entrenched Putin in power, and this is the result.
On another thread I'll bring up how Nixon started the mess that is now China. How about when you have totalitarian states you don't HELP THEM? That would be a good plan I think.
And the US is largely to blame. We had it within our power for multiple administrations to prevent this travesty. Obama allowing the annexation of the Crimea with no real response, Trump taking some action but not nearly enough, and Biden basically giving Russia a green light when they started moving troops instead of responding quickly and decisively by arming and or putting troops in Ukraine.
For years we refused to arm them with lethal weapons, didn't want to anger Russia by going too far, and this is the result.
The rest of the blame is on Europe, mostly Germany, for not wanting to lose access to Russian oil and gas for not taking more action in all of Eastern Europe to create real military hegemony with Russia in those countries.
Those people are suffering due to limp, pathetic non-action by the West, largely due to a complete absence of American action.
Hey, remember when Obama and his ilk scoffed at Romney for saying Russia was a threat? Yeah, they sure are smart those guys. The "Reset with Russia" that Obama and Hillary and Biden created has sure gone well hasn't it? it put Russia back on its feet, entrenched Putin in power, and this is the result.
On another thread I'll bring up how Nixon started the mess that is now China. How about when you have totalitarian states you don't HELP THEM? That would be a good plan I think.