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dan_bgblue
09-25-2021, 03:29 PM
Wall Street Journal
(https://www.wsj.com/articles/3-5-trillion-is-a-phony-number-democrats-spending-bill-entitlements-joe-biden-11632425260?mod=hp_opin_pos_5#cxrecs_s)

Democrats are grasping for ways to finance their cradle-to-grave welfare state, with the left demanding what they claim is $3.5 trillion over 10 years. The truth is that even that gargantuan number hides the real cost of their plans.

The bills moving through committees are full of delayed starts, phony phase-outs, and cost shifting to states designed to fit $3.5 trillion into a 10-year budget window that can pass with a mere 51 Senate votes. Even if the bill shrinks to $2 trillion or less, the real costs will be far greater. Behold one of the greatest fiscal cons in history.

• Start with the child allowance, which is among the bill’s most expensive provisions. Extending the $3,000 to $3,600 per-child payments for a decade would cost roughly $1.1 trillion. That’s as much as all of the income tax increases on individuals passed by the House Ways and Means Committee.

Nancy Pelosi's Democratic Juggling Act

Democrats have hidden the real cost by extending the allowance only through 2025. Even if Republicans gain control of Congress and the White House in 2024, Democrats and their media allies will bludgeon them to extend the payments, which will cost another $110 billion each year. The GOP will be accused of raising taxes on middle-class families.

• Democrats are using a different time shift to disguise the cost of their Medicare expansion. New vision and hearing benefits would kick in over the next two years and cost about $20 billion a year. But Democrats are delaying the phase-in of the much more expensive dental benefit to 2028. This “saves” $420 billion over 10 years, but the costs explode after that.

• Then there’s the new universal child-care entitlement, which gives $90 billion to the states—but only from 2022 to 2027. The bill limits household costs to a share of income on a sliding scale. None would pay more than 7% of income no matter how much they earn or how many children they have.

Child-care providers will raise prices to capture more government subsidies, as colleges and health insurers do now. This is a rare entitlement in the bill that has a dedicated appropriation. But what happens when the $90 billion runs out, which may occur before the 2027 expiration? The bill automatically appropriates “such sums as may be necessary for each of fiscal years 2025 through 2027.”

• Democrats also charge states with standing up a universal pre-K entitlement, which would start next year and run through 2028. The House Education and Labor Committee bill doesn’t specify an appropriation, but President Biden’s budget projects this new entitlement would cost $33 billion a year when fully phased in.

Initially the feds would pick up 100% of the cost, but Washington’s share would decline to 60% by 2028. Shifting spending to the states reduces the 10-year cost, but the states will get stuck with huge bills as the federal cost-share declines.

• Democrats are also shifting some costs of free community college to the states. The entitlement passed by the House Education and Labor Committee would run only from the 2023-24 school year through 2027-28. The feds would pay 100% of average state tuition and fees for students at community colleges in 2023, but only 80% by 2027.

This phase-out and cost-shift shaves at least $50 billion off the 10-year federal tab. But states will have an enormous incentive to expand community college enrollment to reel in more federal dollars, so the budget costs could explode anyway.

The precedent is ObamaCare’s Medicaid expansion. Initially the feds induced states to expand eligibility up to 138% of the poverty line by picking up 100% of the cost. Federal spending ballooned as the Medicaid rolls swelled. But as the federal cost-share declined to 90% in 2020, states were stuck with a surprise bill.

A dozen states have declined to expand Medicaid. So now Democrats are creating a new federal program that expands Medicaid in these states, starting in 2025. This will soon become a national quasi-public option. Cost estimates are fuzzy. But as with other entitlements, the spending would be on autopilot and removed from Congress’s annual appropriations.
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The press has reported almost none of this, which is how Democrats like it. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, which is far from a conservative outfit, pegs the real cost over a decade at $5 trillion to $5.5 trillion. Total U.S. annual GDP is about $23 trillion.

But don’t expect an honest accounting from the Congressional Budget Office, which will score the bill based on the directions Democrats give. Recall how CBO scored the federal takeover of student loans as a money raiser in 2010. The bottom line: $3.5 trillion is merely the first installment of a bill that would put government at the commanding heights of family life and the economy for decades to come. Tax increases will follow as far as the eye can see.

dan_bgblue
09-25-2021, 05:11 PM
Gets even further down the rabbit hole the more times Uncle Joe opens his mouth

Democrats in Congress are proving to be harder to corral behind a $3.5 trillion multiplicity of tax increases and entitlement expansions than their leaders had hoped. So behold the new White House spin: The agenda that was being sold a few weeks ago as the modern equivalent of the New Deal or Great Society is actually so modest it doesn’t cost a thing.

“Every time I hear this is going to cost A, B, C, or D—the truth is, based on the commitment that I made, it’s going to cost nothing,” President Biden said at a press conference Friday, trying to restore momentum to the reconciliation package, “because we’re going to raise the revenue.”

We didn’t know that when you pay for something that makes it free. But the White House apparently thinks it has a winner. The clip of Mr. Biden was shared on Twitter by a National Economic Council flack with the claim that “Building Back Better is going to cost zero dollars,” which was retweeted by White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain.

White House deputy press secretary Andrew Bates told Axios, “The bill’s price tag is $0 because it will be paid for by ending failed, special tax giveaways for the richest taxpayers and big corporations, adding nothing to the debt.” One requirement of a modern political flack is being incapable of embarrassment.

WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-white-house-zero-hour-joe-biden-spending-bill-costs-nothing-11632522084?mod=hp_opin_pos_4#cxrecs_s)

If he means this, he is talking about raising taxes. That being the case, then the Boston Tea Party will just be a fading memory in the history books.

CitizenBBN
09-25-2021, 05:21 PM
The goals were pretty clear. 1) try to federalize elections in their favor. 2) Entrench a socialist welfare state that can't be undone.

It's a formula for them to stay in power indefinitely.

Now, it's not a formula for America to be a successful nation, or for Americans to benefit from liberty or economic prosperity, but that isn't really their concern.

Doc
09-26-2021, 04:05 PM
And a large number of congresspeople will not even read it before voting

bigsky
09-27-2021, 01:56 PM
More like ten trillion

KeithKSR
09-29-2021, 11:36 PM
More like ten trillion

They are pushing hard trying to convince people it won’t cost anything. No doubt some fools will believe what they are peddling.

Doc
09-30-2021, 07:11 AM
They are pushing hard trying to convince people it won’t cost anything. No doubt some fools will believe what they are peddling.

Its only the rich...those over $400k ...that will fork over this $5,000,000,000,000. All those but Biden (who reportedly owns $500,000) and congress (who will somehow get around it).

Catonahottinroof
09-30-2021, 08:01 AM
The epitome of BS was passed yesterday by Jen Psaki who said…” know that corporations do not need to raise the cost of goods in order to pay more taxes and pay more of their fair share.”
I also have some oceanfront property in Arizona I’d like to sell you….

catmanjack
09-30-2021, 08:56 PM
One great Democrat here in Louisville Yarmouth stated the same thing how the Democrats are the only party that cares about America and doing this alone.
How Biden’s great plan would only effect the rich and corporations would not pass the higher taxes on by raising the cost.
It’s just truly amazing that they can be so arrogant and not think it will be passed down.

CitizenBBN
09-30-2021, 10:39 PM
One great Democrat here in Louisville Yarmouth stated the same thing how the Democrats are the only party that cares about America and doing this alone.
How Biden’s great plan would only effect the rich and corporations would not pass the higher taxes on by raising the cost.
It’s just truly amazing that they can be so arrogant and not think it will be passed down.

Every penny the government collects in taxes is money that goes to them instead of other places.

Rich people don't have big safes with stacks of $100s. That money is working in the economy as capital which creates the liquidity that companies then borrow to use or receive in direct investments so they can build factories and hire people.

Every penny stops being a private investment decision and becomes a government investment decision.

So who do you trust to better invest in our economy? Wall Street or Nancy Pelosi/Schumer/Biden?

I know who I choose. Not to mention the sheer overhead government adds to any such investment.

At one level economics isn't really hard. It gets convoluted with a lot of math and crap, but at the end of the day the question is who you want investing that money, remembering to factor in that government will only get about 30 cents on every dollar from the tax coffers to the actual person they target.

catmanjack
10-12-2021, 08:57 PM
Has there ever been a full release of the programs in this bill?

dan_bgblue
10-13-2021, 08:37 AM
Has there ever been a full release of the programs in this bill?

The answer is no. They have not finished writing the bill. The dems do not know what will be in it when it is complete.

catmanjack
10-13-2021, 09:14 PM
Wow but yet they will still vote for it.

bigsky
10-15-2021, 10:10 AM
Excessive inflation of basic necessities, extensive product shortages, a permanent government paid and sheltered and fed underclass, rampant homelessness, open borders, dangerous streets, governmental parenting, censorship and propaganda. This is Joe Biden’s America.