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CitizenBBN
05-07-2021, 11:49 AM
Really? You are paying people roughly $15 or so an hour to sit at home and you're surprised they DO IT??????

I just hired someone for a position. I used a major online job service to post the want ad. I had NUMEROUS people apply, then not return calls or just blow off the interview once scheduled. We figured out why. Kentucky is now requiring people "look for work" for their unemployment. I presume they are submitting the applications or whatever or doing them just to show they are looking.

It got so bad our first question when we called was "are you currently on unemployment." Every person, EVERY person who said yes either wasn't available for an interview or scheduled one and then never showed up. We had TWO who did come in for interviews and both of them were denied unemployment. Fortunately I found a good guy, but I was really lucky and it took several weeks.

Correlation?

Dumasses. Do you really think the country can get back to work even at $15 an hour jobs (the Left's current magic number for a "living wage") when you are providing that to do nothing until at least September?

How big a bunch of crooks are our leaders? Pelosi is saying this justifies MORE spending. https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/pelosi-april-jobs-report-disappointing-more-spending


No, it justifies LESS spending. Stop spending our grandkids future, end the subsidy to not work, and get the hell out of the way of American business, and it will all be fine.

Oh, and wait till the inflation numbers come out for this period in a few months. People are desperate to hire right now. Gas stations and restaurants are having to limit hours b/c they can't hire enough staff. It's putting pressure on wages to increase, which is fine but along with the increases in lumber prices, the very low manufactured goods inventory and home prices, there will be inflation.

CitizenBBN
05-07-2021, 12:04 PM
Oh and just to be clear, this is not an indication the economy is slack, or that people aren't hiring (which would be the basis for Pelosi's "more stimulus" call). The economy and demand are fine, it's just that people don't have to go back to work so they don't go.

The local vapor shop chain in this area runs radio spots CONSTANTLY. They have stores from London to Georgetown, up and down 75. Their ad now is a 1 minute wanted ad to hire people for at least 3 of those locations. He goes into paid time off for holidays, employee discounts, sick leave, etc. makes a full pitch.

If he's using his ad time to just hire people, in stores that get tremendous foot traffic (he's very successful) so therefore places a "now hiring" sign would already get tons of exposure, then you know how hard it is to hire. And he's looking for 3 or 4 stores, from managers to staff.

Catonahottinroof
05-07-2021, 12:10 PM
On the local news (Southwest FL) last night, the comparison on homes built in March 2020 and March 2021 was $367K and now $482K. Same house just increase in building materials and labor due many sitting at home milking the system till September.....smh

catmanjack
05-07-2021, 01:42 PM
Huge issue here in the city of Louisville with restaurants having enough waiters and bartenders because of the new found government pay to sit home!

bigsky
05-07-2021, 06:11 PM
winCo, a grocery here, will pay you $18 hr to cashier. you have to be employable.

bigsky
05-07-2021, 06:13 PM
median price of a sfh in Bozeman is $705,000. rentals $800/bedroom

bigsky
05-08-2021, 10:02 AM
Montana Governor ends federal unemployment program, incentivizes a return to work instead. "Unemployment should be a safety net, not a career choice." Greg Gianforte

KentuckyWildcat
05-08-2021, 01:08 PM
Our McD's has to close early b/c they do not have enough help. Our Papa John's is not open every day. Southern States has 8 openings. My wife's nursing home cannot find CNAs, RNs, or Techs. I could go on. Even Disney was under staffed last week and it was obvious. Their customer service was definitely a step below what I am used to from them.

Many jobs that are filled around here are high school kids because of the virtual learning. Many went to work and did school on the side.

KeithKSR
05-09-2021, 08:46 AM
There are plenty of jobs out there for anyone willing to work, there are even jobs out there for reluctant workers.

catmanjack
05-09-2021, 09:39 AM
No reason to work when this government believes in free handouts.
You do not have to work hard when 40-45% do and pay all the taxes.

CitizenBBN
05-09-2021, 04:35 PM
Montana Governor ends federal unemployment program, incentivizes a return to work instead. "Unemployment should be a safety net, not a career choice." Greg Gianforte

If we had GOP governor I would hope for that action here, but with ours it won't happen. Even though it has already bankrupted our insurance fund and put it about 800 million in the hole, all borrowed from the feds.

It's an absolute joke. People who won't accept that if you pay people $15 an hour or so (depends on the state benefit) they may not go to work for even $17 or $18, much less for $12 or $15.

KeithKSR
05-10-2021, 05:24 PM
If we had GOP governor I would hope for that action here, but with ours it won't happen. Even though it has already bankrupted our insurance fund and put it about 800 million in the hole, all borrowed from the feds.

It's an absolute joke. People who won't accept that if you pay people $15 an hour or so (depends on the state benefit) they may not go to work for even $17 or $18, much less for $12 or $15.

Can we trade governors with Utah?

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2021/05/09/gov-cox-defends-push-end/

VirginiaCat
05-11-2021, 09:47 AM
I'm willing to pay non-degreed indivuduals 21 years or older with any childcare experience (6 months and can include coaching and babysitting) $17.50 per hour an up to $20.50 per hour with shift differential but cannot get applicants. With OT they can be making over $30 per hour.... I have about 40 vacant positions. I am getting 1-2 applicants per week but many not able to pass experience requirements or pass a background check.

It is a truly serious problem.

MickintheHam
05-11-2021, 10:37 AM
Oh and just to be clear, this is not an indication the economy is slack, or that people aren't hiring (which would be the basis for Pelosi's "more stimulus" call). The economy and demand are fine, it's just that people don't have to go back to work so they don't go.

The local vapor shop chain in this area runs radio spots CONSTANTLY. They have stores from London to Georgetown, up and down 75. Their ad now is a 1 minute wanted ad to hire people for at least 3 of those locations. He goes into paid time off for holidays, employee discounts, sick leave, etc. makes a full pitch.

If he's using his ad time to just hire people, in stores that get tremendous foot traffic (he's very successful) so therefore places a "now hiring" sign would already get tons of exposure, then you know how hard it is to hire. And he's looking for 3 or 4 stores, from managers to staff.

My son is regional manager for a food chain in Central Ky. He has 8 stores. He has the same problems as you describe. They are running most stores at half staff. Sore hours have been cut back by as much as a third and and most are drive through only. Revenues are down significantly. Productivity is up and profitability is about the same. A lot of the job vacancies will evaporate as businesses evaluate the measures they have taken during this recovery. Don’t go looking for food after 8:30 pm as you will have a very hard time finding anything open. But, this is the new normal

We are fortunate in Ala to have unemployment in the 3.5 to 4.0% range. It will get better in another month when the temporary Covid measures end. I don’t understand how states in the 8% to 10% range survive. We are already seeing major cracks in the economies of the large blue states. Population declines in those states will only grow greater as people willing to work and generate wealth move away. I hope those states only get bluerand bluer. We can then sit back and watch as the dems are forced to dismantle their Utopian states.

dan_bgblue
05-11-2021, 01:27 PM
We can then sit back and watch as the dems are forced to dismantle their Utopian states.

They will not do that as long as they can suck the blood out of producing states for blues state survival.

CitizenBBN
05-11-2021, 11:41 PM
I rarely do this, but I love this one and it's relevant to this point in the thread:

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/05/918/516/2cartoon-5.11.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

suncat05
05-12-2021, 01:04 PM
I rarely do this, but I love this one and it's relevant to this point in the thread:

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/05/918/516/2cartoon-5.11.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Unfortunately, you are most likely way more correct than you know. And as I've stated here before, this CANCER is spreading. Here where I live now you see New York & New Jersey license plates about every 7th or 8th vehicle, because these stupid Yankees just can't be satisfied messing up one state, now they just have to move to my home and do their best to foul it up too. :banghead:

CitizenBBN
05-12-2021, 05:23 PM
Oh, I KNOW it's right. They can't figure out that their political policies in their home states are the problem. Dumb as a box of rocks, they can't connect socialism with the homelessness, poverty, high taxes and crime they are leaving.

KeithKSR
05-13-2021, 10:28 PM
Oh, I KNOW it's right. They can't figure out that their political policies in their home states are the problem. Dumb as a box of rocks, they can't connect socialism with the homelessness, poverty, high taxes and crime they are leaving.

That is exactly right.

KentuckyWildcat
05-14-2021, 04:40 PM
McDonald's here is offering $9 an hour and $100 sign on bonus.

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VirginiaCat
05-20-2021, 09:24 AM
This is multi-industry issue.

Healthcare is hit as well. Saw a Hospital in Texas offering RN's a $20K sign-on bonus (have to commit to one year).

Chipolte is paying $17 plus benefits.

P&G in WV is starting at $22/hour up to $26 in 6 months.

KentuckyWildcat
05-22-2021, 07:42 AM
From Dan's link about Biden wanting in your bank account, there is 13.8 million more people on unemployment than before the pandemic.

dan_bgblue
09-05-2021, 01:45 PM
Gonna have to drag the freeloaders, kicking and screaming, back to work, or you will have to fix your own fries with that.

Linkage (https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-biden-jobs-paradox-11630707033?mod=hp_opin_pos_3#cxrecs_s)

The jobs report for August was a major disappointment, and it underscores the paradox of the labor market during the Biden Administration: Employers are desperate for workers and paying them more, but too few workers are coming off the sidelines to take available jobs.

Doc
09-05-2021, 02:17 PM
Really? You are paying people roughly $15 or so an hour to sit at home and you're surprised they DO IT??????

I just hired someone for a position. I used a major online job service to post the want ad. I had NUMEROUS people apply, then not return calls or just blow off the interview once scheduled. We figured out why. Kentucky is now requiring people "look for work" for their unemployment. I presume they are submitting the applications or whatever or doing them just to show they are looking.

It got so bad our first question when we called was "are you currently on unemployment." Every person, EVERY person who said yes either wasn't available for an interview or scheduled one and then never showed up. We had TWO who did come in for interviews and both of them were denied unemployment. Fortunately I found a good guy, but I was really lucky and it took several weeks.

Correlation?

Dumasses. Do you really think the country can get back to work even at $15 an hour jobs (the Left's current magic number for a "living wage") when you are providing that to do nothing until at least September?

How big a bunch of crooks are our leaders? Pelosi is saying this justifies MORE spending. https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/pelosi-april-jobs-report-disappointing-more-spending


No, it justifies LESS spending. Stop spending our grandkids future, end the subsidy to not work, and get the hell out of the way of American business, and it will all be fine.

Oh, and wait till the inflation numbers come out for this period in a few months. People are desperate to hire right now. Gas stations and restaurants are having to limit hours b/c they can't hire enough staff. It's putting pressure on wages to increase, which is fine but along with the increases in lumber prices, the very low manufactured goods inventory and home prices, there will be inflation.

4 months later and we are still at the same spot

CitizenBBN
09-05-2021, 07:41 PM
Pretty much, and inflation doing exactly as expected.

Pay people to not work, and they kinda take to it. Now it's hard to get them back to actually working.

KeithKSR
09-06-2021, 12:50 AM
Pretty much, and inflation doing exactly as expected.

Pay people to not work, and they kinda take to it. Now it's hard to get them back to actually working.

We’ve got local businesses that are having a difficult time operating due to the inability to find workers.

CitizenBBN
09-06-2021, 03:40 PM
We’ve got local businesses that are having a difficult time operating due to the inability to find workers.

Most food places, fast and otherwise, are on limited hours b/c of it.

It's bad. I've struggled, and everyone else I talk to is in the same boat.

KeithKSR
09-06-2021, 04:06 PM
Most food places, fast and otherwise, are on limited hours b/c of it.

It's bad. I've struggled, and everyone else I talk to is in the same boat.

We’ve got a local drive in restaurant, they get most of their business during warm weather months when people can eat at their picnic tables. Until Covid hit they would take their food truck to neighboring towns and did brisk sales. Another big part of their business is also their fresh donuts they make in house, their glazed croissants are the bomb. They haven’t had enough help to run the food truck since the pandemic hit, and a lot of mornings the new help they hire today doesn’t show tomorrow. The owners have several small businesses and are dependent upon employees showing at 4:00 am to get the donuts prepared for the morning on the way to work/school traffic.

CitizenBBN
09-06-2021, 04:51 PM
I have had numerous people just not show up for interviews after talking to them on the phone, and had one guy we hired who never showed for the job.

Every place in town has a "hiring" sign out. I'll be curious if it rebounds some now that the benefits have finally run out and utilities and landlords can collect on what is due.