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ukpumacat
01-05-2021, 11:22 PM
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1346663251115962368?s=20

https://twitter.com/mistergeezy/status/1346661891796512770?s=20

ukpumacat
01-05-2021, 11:23 PM
And in Oregon....

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1346669003851378688?s=20

ukpumacat
01-05-2021, 11:24 PM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/88avmx/proud-boys-and-hardcore-trump-supporters-are-turning-their-backs-on-cops

CitizenBBN
01-06-2021, 12:13 AM
Too lazy to click. let me guess, conservatives protesting and breaking the law?

it's going to get worse. On both sides. Buckle up.

And fwiw, part of that is b.c of the treatment, or lack of it, that Antifa and others have gotten the last 4 years. A lot of people are going to think what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

The leftist media was all for it when it helped push for social and political change they wanted, but it was achieved by sending the message that lawlessness was a right, that mobocracy was expression.

I said then it would come home to roost by only further eroding the social norms that hold things together, and it will.

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 07:58 AM
Could not have said that better.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 09:11 AM
Too lazy to click. let me guess, conservatives protesting and breaking the law?

it's going to get worse. On both sides. Buckle up.

And fwiw, part of that is b.c of the treatment, or lack of it, that Antifa and others have gotten the last 4 years. A lot of people are going to think what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

The leftist media was all for it when it helped push for social and political change they wanted, but it was achieved by sending the message that lawlessness was a right, that mobocracy was expression.

I said then it would come home to roost by only further eroding the social norms that hold things together, and it will.

No not conservatives. Maybe right wing but not conservatives. Proud boys are goose steppers. Mitch McConnell is a conservative. Mitt Romney too. Pence and many others are conservative. They are good Americans who on some issues I agree with and others I disagree with.

Proud Boys are goose steppers and if anyone engages in destruction of property and violence are criminals not exercising their first amendment rights. They are criminals. If Antifa or anyone on the left behaves in that manner, they are criminals too.

But I won't call Proud Boys or Klan or Nazis conservatives.

suncat05
01-06-2021, 11:04 AM
I can't say out loud what I think needs to happen. And I am pretty damn sure that I am not the only one thinking it.......😠

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 11:07 AM
I’d love to Know Suncat. You are retired law enforcement. You have spent a career upholding the law and putting yourself in potential harms way everyday you protected and served.

So what should happen?

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 11:26 AM
Things are not all rosy now that the Democrats are in charge.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 11:30 AM
Things are not all rosy now that the Democrats are in charge.

Well, obviously that depends on your politics.

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 11:48 AM
And policies.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 12:28 PM
Just now: Trump supporters try to storm the Capitol Building....

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1346883077524639748?s=20

Catonahottinroof
01-06-2021, 12:30 PM
This thread would have better context if it started in May over what happened in Portland and Minneapolis in late May....

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 12:34 PM
Just now: Trump supporters try to storm the Capitol Building....

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1346883077524639748?s=20

I should mention...to even get that closely they had to storm barricades that had kept them back about 100 yards shy of that.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 12:34 PM
This thread would have better context if it started in May over what happened in Portland and Minneapolis in late May....


Those were also criminals. But ya, tit for tat. "They did this so now we...."

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 12:36 PM
They have now evacuated most of the Capitol (outside of the large houses). More video:

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1346881968819105792?s=20


This is absolutely nuts. Mitch, meanwhile is torching Trump right now.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 12:46 PM
https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1346887252216000517?s=20

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 12:49 PM
They have now evacuated most of the Capitol (outside of the large houses). More video:

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1346881968819105792?s=20


This is absolutely nuts. Mitch, meanwhile is torching Trump right now.

Best thing I have heard Mitch say in his career. Unreal for Trump to foment what amounts to an assault and siege on the Hill.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:10 PM
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1346896040558030853?s=20

The Capitol is now on lockdown. Protestors have overrun police and barricades multiple times before being driven back. Suspicious package found as well.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 01:16 PM
I'd say Antifa has got nothing past these...muthers supporting a truly disgraced president

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:17 PM
Trump supporters have now scaled the walls and steps of the Capitol. Much of Law enforcement has left the area as they have been overwhelmed.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:20 PM
Pence was just evacuated from the Senate floor.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 01:20 PM
We need the military to disperse the crowd. God help us.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 01:22 PM
Pence was just evacuated from the Senate floor.

With Trump, does that mean Pence will be placed under arrest? I am not kidding.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:22 PM
With Trump, does that mean Pence will be placed under arrest? I am not kidding.

I don't know. A report of a Pipe Bomb outside. Gun shots reported as well.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:23 PM
Protestors are now inside the Capitol building.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:24 PM
We had the military come out to clear peaceful protestors so Trump could have a photo op. But he's now in his office smiling.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 01:26 PM
It is a coup against the legitimate government of the United States.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:29 PM
It is a coup against the legitimate government of the United States.

It is. And their dictator is encouraging it.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:30 PM
Like Ive said, "Sleep with the dog, get the fleas".

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 01:30 PM
Any Republicans or conservatives want to condemn this. If not...God have mercy on your souls.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:31 PM
Any Republicans or conservatives want to condemn this. If not...God have mercy on your souls.

But the rioters and looters....

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:35 PM
Here is a video of them breaking in:

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1346900255732887556?s=20

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:38 PM
This is inside the Capitol at the doors to the Senate floor:

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1346899437520621568?s=20

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:40 PM
GOP Kinzinger just called it a coup attempt.

Catonahottinroof
01-06-2021, 01:41 PM
And you see what tolerance with law enforcement yields.....

That’s why I pointed out what happened in May. It has helped breed this madness.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:46 PM
Guns have been drawn in the chamber. Congressmen being evacuated.

PedroDaGr8
01-06-2021, 01:47 PM
Guns have been drawn in the chamber. Congressmen being evacuated.

Reports of shooting into the chamber.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:47 PM
And you see what tolerance with law enforcement yields.....

That’s why I pointed out what happened in May. It has helped breed this madness.

1 hour ago Trump told them to "never accept the results" and sent them to the Capitol. That is why this is happening.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:50 PM
This is inside the chamber:

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ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 01:52 PM
9863

GUns drawn.

Catonahottinroof
01-06-2021, 01:53 PM
Agree to a point, however, if law enforcement had done what is necessary in Minneapolis, in Portland, in Louisville this wouldn’t be happening. There is no longer fear of consequences...and I can understand why that thought is out there.
1 hour ago Trump told them to "never accept the results" and sent them to the Capitol. That is why this is happening.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:01 PM
Trump Admin has just denied the DC police request for National Guard.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:03 PM
They are now in the chamber...

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ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:06 PM
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Bloodless no more.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 02:09 PM
Trump Admin has just denied the DC police request for National Guard.

What the hell? President has to be removed if the military is not allowed to bring back order.

Rome is burning and Nero is fiddling.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:10 PM
https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1346910235399659532?s=20

Trump supporters on the Senate floor.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:19 PM
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ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:23 PM
A woman has been shot in the chest.

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1346915291746463745?s=20

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:25 PM
Trump has just lost almost any support he had going forward from Republican lawmakers. He can also never win in 2024 now (not that he could anyways).

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:26 PM
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346915809969528832?s=20

Breaking into the Capitol.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 02:29 PM
I am overwhelmed with emotion. Sadness. Anger. Fear.

We can't wait until January 20.

VirginiaCat
01-06-2021, 02:31 PM
Fully agree.

Legislative and law enforcement send the wrong message when they accept a type of behavior from one POV and not another. By accepting it this summer, they have set a standard.

Simply put, Peaceful assembly can be controlled, it is not rampant. Cities have a right to require permits for large gatherings, but they have to apply them equally to all points of view.


Too lazy to click. let me guess, conservatives protesting and breaking the law?

it's going to get worse. On both sides. Buckle up.

And fwiw, part of that is b.c of the treatment, or lack of it, that Antifa and others have gotten the last 4 years. A lot of people are going to think what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

The leftist media was all for it when it helped push for social and political change they wanted, but it was achieved by sending the message that lawlessness was a right, that mobocracy was expression.

I said then it would come home to roost by only further eroding the social norms that hold things together, and it will.


Could not have said that better.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:32 PM
I am overwhelmed with emotion. Sadness. Anger. Fear.

We can't wait until January 20.

It would not shock me if the 25th amendment was invoked. Just fyi. I have seen several VERY pro Trump lawmakers tweet as much. He has lost many followers and supporters today.

VirginiaCat
01-06-2021, 02:33 PM
Too lazy to click. let me guess, conservatives protesting and breaking the law?

it's going to get worse. On both sides. Buckle up.

And fwiw, part of that is b.c of the treatment, or lack of it, that Antifa and others have gotten the last 4 years. A lot of people are going to think what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

The leftist media was all for it when it helped push for social and political change they wanted, but it was achieved by sending the message that lawlessness was a right, that mobocracy was expression.

I said then it would come home to roost by only further eroding the social norms that hold things together, and it will.


Could not have said that better.


What the hell? President has to be removed if the military is not allowed to bring back order.

Rome is burning and Nero is fiddling.

What I have heard is the miltary leadership declined to become involved. Not that Trump admin ordered. I am not saying it could not be true, just what I heard reported.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:34 PM
What I have heard is the miltary leadership declined to become involved. Not that Trump admin ordered. I am not saying it could not be true, just what I heard reported.

Trump can shut this down in one minute by calling the National Guard. He filled the streets with military for a photo shoot.

Catonahottinroof
01-06-2021, 02:38 PM
That is a real possibility

It would not shock me if the 25th amendment was invoked. Just fyi. I have seen several VERY pro Trump lawmakers tweet as much. He has lost many followers and supporters today.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:42 PM
The Governor of Virginia just sent the Virginia National Guard by request of the Mayor of DC.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 02:58 PM
And now the National Guard has been deployed.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:00 PM
I just cannot imagine what these threads would look like if this was reversed. If Trump won the election and "BLM and Antifa" stormed the Capitol and shut down the Congress.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 03:13 PM
Traitors. That simple.

If you voted for Donald Trump and are not ashamed you sure as Hell should be.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:33 PM
And they carried their flag.

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ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:41 PM
And now nooses.

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ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:43 PM
I am just struck by the fact that there is still no National Guard there. No military. No armed vehicles. No arrests.
All of which we saw all summer.

People are just climbing, storming, taking pictures and smiling as they walk away.

Get them to kneel during the national anthem and we will see troops descend from helicopters.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:46 PM
Remember when that mob of vehicles surrounded Biden's bus in Texas and everyone laughed it off?

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:50 PM
President and CEO of the National Association of Manufacturers: “Vice President Pence, who was evacuated from the Capitol, should seriously consider working with the Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment to preserve democracy.”

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 03:50 PM
Getting just a bit carried away now, here in the city of Louisville the BLM and rioting lasted for 100’s of day and still continues.
With Millions of dollars of destruction.

I am just struck by the fact that there is still no National Guard there. No military. No armed vehicles. No arrests.
All of which we saw all summer.

People are just climbing, storming, taking pictures and smiling as they walk away.

Get them to kneel during the national anthem and we will see troops descend from helicopters.

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 03:52 PM
BOTH sides have these terrorist!

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:52 PM
Getting just a bit carried away now, here in the city of Louisville the BLM and rioting lasted for 100’s of day and still continues.
With Millions of dollars of destruction.

And its wrong!

But here is the deal, we see violence (unfortunately) every single day. We see rioters every single year. All should be dealt with by the full extent of the law.
What we have never ever seen is a sitting President inciting a storming of the Capitol to stop the certification of the Electoral College in order to overthrow an election and retain power. Please stop comparing what is happening today to ANYTHING that has happened in the last 100 years. Nothing is comparable. This is 3rd world country stuff.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:59 PM
This is the first time U.S. Capitol has been breached since 1814.

WASHINGTON (AP) — DC police chief says protesters deployed ‘chemical irritants on police’ to gain access to US Capitol.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 03:59 PM
Getting just a bit carried away now, here in the city of Louisville the BLM and rioting lasted for 100’s of day and still continues.
With Millions of dollars of destruction.

Catman,

That was bad but this is the nation's capitol. Our seat of government. These traitors stormed the building with every single elected leader in the country save for Trump there. Every nationally elected US government official in our government our civilian chain of command was put in jeopardy.

Those people that are on the steps should be should be given the chance to surrender and if they don't shot on sight.

Storming the Capitol is more dangerous and worse than what we saw in any city. And that was wrong. This is treason. It is a coup.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 03:59 PM
This is the first time U.S. Capitol has been breached since 1812.

WASHINGTON (AP) — DC police chief says seditious domestic terrorists deployed ‘chemical irritants on police’ to gain access to US Capitol.

Fixed.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:01 PM
Catman,

That was bad but this is the nation's capitol. Our seat of government. These traitors stormed the building with every single elected leader in the country save for Trump there. Every nationally elected US government official in our government our civilian chain of command was put in jeopardy.

Those people that are on the steps should be should be given the chance to surrender and if they don't shot on sight.

Storming the Capitol is more dangerous and worse than what we saw in any city. And that was wrong. This is treason. It is a coup.

Like not a theoretical one. An actual, violent coup attempt. Ordered today by the President of the United States and his personal lawyer hours before.

But, as we've been told for months by his supporters...this is just "Trump being Trump".

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 04:05 PM
Yes it is wrong but we continue to allow these terrorist the freedom to destroy and tear down when the narrative fits that is causing a huge divide.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:05 PM
Maybe the most stunning thing about all of this?

Every single terroirst group and organization the world wide now knows how easy it would be to overtake the Capitol while Congress is in session and blow up a room full of our leaders.

And frankly, maybe more stunning that no one has done it or thought to hide amongst the Trump supporters to do it today.
I did read they have diffused two homemade bombs already. I am sure they will do a huge sweep of the building before its occupied because maybe someone did.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 04:10 PM
BOTH sides have these terrorist!

Catman,

There are two sides right now. Those for the legitimate government of the United States and those opposed. I don't give a damn about BLM, Antifa, etc.

The goose steppers waving Q and Trump flags as they blaspheme Old Glory, they didn't take on BLM, they attacked the United States of America.

They are traitors.

Two sides. One for the US and one that has taken up arms against it.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 04:12 PM
Maybe the most stunning thing about all of this?

Every single terroirst group and organization the world wide now knows how easy it would be to overtake the Capitol while Congress is in session and blow up a room full of our leaders.

And frankly, maybe more stunning that no one has done it or thought to hide amongst the Trump supporters to do it today.
I did read they have diffused two homemade bombs already. I am sure they will do a huge sweep of the building before its occupied because maybe someone did.

I think one has to reconsider what security measures we had today and compare it to normal situations and heightened.

We need to review the security measures and see what happened and why?

Catfan73
01-06-2021, 04:16 PM
What's happening today is the unavoidable conclusion of 25 years of indoctrination of the proletariat. The real blame lies with Gingrich and Limbaugh and Hannity.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:17 PM
I think one has to reconsider what security measures we had today and compare it to normal situations and heightened.

We need to review the security measures and see what happened and why?

IT will be investigated to death. What I believe you will find is a lot of cooperation from some pro-Trump police.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:17 PM
What's happening today is the unavoidable conclusion of 25 years of indoctrination of the proletariat. The real blame lies with Gingrich and Limbaugh and Hannity.

:sHa_clap2:

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:20 PM
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This was the Capitol this summer during the BLM protests.

kingcat
01-06-2021, 04:20 PM
One is either a seditionist or they are not. The gauntlet was tossed down today.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 04:22 PM
IT will be investigated to death. What I believe you will find is a lot of cooperation from some pro-Trump police.

Fear that is the case. Spoken to friends who raised the BLM protest response comparison.

Utter disgrace. Indefensible.

Catonahottinroof
01-06-2021, 04:24 PM
Again IMO.....tolerant law enforcement is an issue.....due to the events of this past summer.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:26 PM
One is either a seditionist or they are not. The gauntlet was tossed down today.

This is why in the strangest way there will be a huge silver lining in all of this. Trump has lost a ton of support today. His brand has been tarnished in a way no one else could have done to him (but himself).

I just heard a Republican House member eviscerate a Fox News talking head. That just never happens in that way. He straight up called her out for even humoring anyone who says the election was stolen.
You will hear more and more of this.
I said earlier that guys like Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley have chosen the wrong side of history. And I argued guys like Sasse and Cotton chose correctly. And not just what is "right". I believe it was best for them politically even.
That was before the storming.
Now, good luck to Cruz and Hawley and anyone else who put their name on that letter.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 04:30 PM
I have to wonder with their asses in danger, will Cruz and others try and argue these votes. Seems more than ever, the notion of a stolen election must be stamped out.

For so many turning against Trump, many stand with him. How many Timothy McVeighs were in this crowd? How many more were motivated and will be further motivated when we retake the Capitol.

Trump is more than a symptom of rot. He was the infection of lawlessness that motivated the stupid and disenfranchised.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:31 PM
Watching Rioters holding Blue Lives Matter flags and fighting with police is....something.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:32 PM
I have to wonder with their asses in danger, will Cruz and others try and argue these votes. Seems more than ever, the notion of a stolen election must be stamped out.

For so many turning against Trump, many stand with him. How many Timothy McVeighs were in this crowd? How many more were motivated and will be further motivated when we retake the Capitol.

Trump is more than a symptom of rot. He was the infection of lawlessness that motivated the stupid and disenfranchised.

I don't think they will. I think it happens very quickly now. But, frankly, who knows?

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:33 PM
Watching Rioters holding Blue Lives Matter flags and fighting with police is....something.

Just saw one yell at a cop, "We'll be back for you!!!".

pdb
01-06-2021, 04:41 PM
No not conservatives. Maybe right wing but not conservatives. Proud boys are goose steppers. Mitch McConnell is a conservative. Mitt Romney too. Pence and many others are conservative. They are good Americans who on some issues I agree with and others I disagree with.

Proud Boys are goose steppers and if anyone engages in destruction of property and violence are criminals not exercising their first amendment rights. They are criminals. If Antifa or anyone on the left behaves in that manner, they are criminals too.

But I won't call Proud Boys or Klan or Nazis conservatives.

I agree totally. And does today’s protests in Washington trump the BLM protests? Different (minimal damage to property) but maybe more significant (damage to the democratic process). Oh, and I anticipate that some will think it is justifiable because the election was stolen. That is ok, you have the right.

pdb
01-06-2021, 04:52 PM
Agree to a point, however, if law enforcement had done what is necessary in Minneapolis, in Portland, in Louisville this wouldn’t be happening. There is no longer fear of consequences...and I can understand why that thought is out there.

And our leader who is supporting/inciting this behavior has no fear of consequences. Which 3rd world country should the US be compare to?

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:53 PM
The woman shot in the chest has died.

pdb
01-06-2021, 04:58 PM
Getting just a bit carried away now, here in the city of Louisville the BLM and rioting lasted for 100’s of day and still continues.
With Millions of dollars of destruction.

Damage to property or damage to our national Capitol and the democratic process? Tough comparison? I keep asking which third world country the US should be compared to?

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 04:59 PM
Damage to property or damage to our national Capitol and the democratic process? Tough comparison? I keep asking which third world country the US should be compared to?

Exactly. We are already being trolled by the President of Turkey. So many just do not understand what a laughing stock we have become around the world.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 05:17 PM
What is the system of government where a head of state goads paramilitary gangs to help him accomplish by force what he cannot through an election, legislatures or the judiciary?

Padukacat
01-06-2021, 05:24 PM
This is an embarrassment of epic proportions to our government. There is such a minute statistical probability that any voter fraud would have changed the outcome of the election, and the same justices that he installed have said as much, yet this guy who is somehow the president is willing to burn our entire country along with every republican and even his vice president at the expense of his mental illness which requires attention and power to survive. Disgusting man. I voted for this mother f'er and i'm totally ashamed of it. I never realized that one person could wield as much power and could run unhinged through our government to the point we have reached. I'm really sorry i voted for this guy, had no clue it was even possible a person would do this or could. One of the worst human beings in the history of our country. He believes there are 50 million stupid people in the country who didnt vote for him. Americans, all stupid people. Blows my mind.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 05:33 PM
This is an embarrassment of epic proportions to our government. There is such a minute statistical probability that any voter fraud would have changed the outcome of the election, and the same justices that he installed have said as much, yet this guy who is somehow the president is willing to burn our entire country along with every republican and even his vice president at the expense of his mental illness which requires attention and power to survive. Disgusting man. I voted for this mother f'er and i'm totally ashamed of it. I never realized that one person could wield as much power and could run unhinged through our government to the point we have reached. I'm really sorry i voted for this guy, had no clue it was even possible a person would do this or could. One of the worst human beings in the history of our country. He believes there are 50 million stupid people in the country who didnt vote for him. Americans, all stupid people. Blows my mind.

There have been and will be more and more just like you. I posted a couple of stories the other day of people who will never vote Republican again because of their complicity with Trump (and they are as conservative as they get).

To be fair, he (and she) told us this was exactly what would happen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOIawUl6pU4

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 05:34 PM
What is the system of government where a head of state goads paramilitary gangs to help him accomplish by force what he cannot through an election, legislatures or the judiciary?

Reminds me of when the Nazis burned downed the Reichstadt.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 05:54 PM
Btw, Sec of Defense just confirmed it was VP Pence who authorized the National Guard, not Pres Trump.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 05:59 PM
Btw, Sec of Defense just confirmed it was VP Pence who authorized the National Guard, not Pres Trump.

**** Trump. And he is a danger To the world until he is out of office.

Catonahottinroof
01-06-2021, 06:01 PM
That should give you an idea the 25th amendment may be in play

Btw, Sec of Defense just confirmed it was VP Pence who authorized the National Guard, not Pres Trump.

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 06:02 PM
Let me reiterate god damn that worthless mother ******’s soul to Hell.

The Party of Lincoln is dead. Those who want small government and strict interpretation of the Constitution needs to find a new home.

If you are a traitor, stick with Trump.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 06:45 PM
This is insane...

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1346952339886923786?s=20

UKHistory
01-06-2021, 06:51 PM
I have a greater disdain for Bobby Lee tonight. Down, down with traitors.

bigsky
01-06-2021, 06:52 PM
Pence may be acting President.

I didn’t see any fires or bombs or packs of rioters stomping a business owner to death. So, #mostlypeaceful right?

Catfan73
01-06-2021, 09:07 PM
Where was the Department of Homeland Security? Looking for a BLM protest?

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 09:40 PM
Be hard to find the BLM terrorist because the Dem sent them back to the basement.

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 10:05 PM
Countdown to blaming Antifa being there dressed up as Trump supporters in 3...2...1...

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 10:31 PM
That’s funny, would possibly cross trumps mind as an excuse.

catmanjack
01-06-2021, 10:32 PM
It’s the little drive by comments that get me!

kingcat
01-06-2021, 10:46 PM
"Police said both law enforcement and Trump supporters deployed chemical irritants during the hours long occupation of the Capitol building before it was cleared Wednesday evening by law enforcement.

The woman was shot earlier Wednesday as the mob tried to break through a barricaded door in the Capitol where police were armed on the other side. She was hospitalized with a gunshot wound and later died.

D.C. police officials also say two pipe bombs were recovered, one outside the Democratic National Committee and one outside the Republican National Committee. Police found a cooler from a vehicle that had a long gun and Molotov cocktail on Capitol grounds"

kingcat
01-06-2021, 10:49 PM
From the Associated Press..

The Senate has overwhelmingly turned aside a challenge to President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in Arizona, guaranteeing the result will stand.

The objection to the results in Arizona -- spearheaded by Rep. Paul Gosar and Sen. Ted Cruz -- was rejected 93-6 on Wednesday night. All votes in favor came from Republicans, but after violent protesters mobbed the Capitol earlier Wednesday a number of GOP senators who had planned to support the objection reversed course.

The Republicans raised the objection based on false claims pushed by President Donald Trump and others of issues with the vote in Arizona, which were repeatedly dismissed in Arizona’s courts and by the state’s election officials.

___

10:10 p.m.

Sen. Lindsey Graham says a commission to examine the 2020 election is not a proper next step and affirmed that Joe Biden is the “legitimate president of the United States.”

Graham, a South Carolina Republican and longtime ally of President Donald Trump, called it a “uniquely bad idea to delay this election,” referencing the commission idea proposed by his fellow South Carolina Republican, U.S. Sen. Tim Scott.

Graham says, “Count me out. Enough is enough.”

Earlier Wednesday, supporters of Trump breached the U.S. Capitol, forcing a lockdown of the lawmakers and staff inside. Trump has claimed widespread voter fraud to explain away his defeat to President-elect Joe Biden, though election officials have said there wasn’t any.

Graham said that “if you’re a conservative,” the idea that Vice President Mike Pence could reverse the results of the election, as President Donald Trump had urged him to do, was “the most offensive concept in the world.”

ukpumacat
01-06-2021, 11:35 PM
Maybe the worst video of all of this that I’ve seen. Just a mob.

https://twitter.com/kysportsradio/status/1347031398176223233?s=21

ukpumacat
01-08-2021, 05:03 PM
Interesting tidbit on how they are tracking down many of those who were a part of the insurrection.

Lol at the final line.

9899

ukpumacat
01-08-2021, 05:21 PM
Another interesting video on the insurgence.

The first few seconds of the video show some insight of how some of the Trump supporters that were there felt (that were not a part of any planned kidnapping, etc and without weapons I would assume):

"We can take that place" - says one Trump supporter while pointing at the Capitol.
"And then what?" - says another
"Heads on Spikes" he yells back.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHjm6wybRbldhqveS7c2WTA

Catfan73
01-08-2021, 05:37 PM
Trump has been permanently banned from Twitter. Oh the shame.

ukpumacat
01-08-2021, 06:35 PM
Trump has been permanently banned from Twitter. Oh the shame.

In part of their statement, this scary tidbit:

"Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021."

StuBleedsBlue2
01-08-2021, 06:56 PM
In part of their statement, this scary tidbit:

"Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021."

I thought I heard that while things were going on in DC, that there was also things happening at the capitols in Michigan and Georgia. Haven't heard much about that, so not sure if it was not true, nothing came from it or it was just overshadowed by what happened in DC.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-09-2021, 10:04 AM
They have arrested the man (https://twitter.com/i/events/1347924332538855424) that was carrying the Speaker's lectern in Florida.

I couldn't help but laugh again that this is just another arrest that was made and looking at the mug shots that the men are now clean shaven. Did they really think that shaving was going to disguise them? I have to think so. These people are pretty dumb.

bigsky
01-09-2021, 11:31 AM
But the pretty dumb guy part of the well armed well planned serious attempted coup and overthrow of the United States government! Yeah, it was Buffalo guy, Pelosi office guy, lectern guy, the heroin addict, the guys and gals wandering the capitol with their phones looking to do something they dunno what? Yeah, and the haute couture of the Proud Boys shows just how serious they were! And the guy who had and unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition in DC! Reminds me of all the Californians (a generic term for the rich covid refugees) moving up here and looking out their windows and seeing a guy walking down the street with a pistol on their hip. After recovering from his high altitude induced fainting spell, but still light-headed, the Californian calls 911 and shrieks that "a man with a pistol walked by just a few feet from my window!" --and the operator has to inform him that it's legal to open carry in Bozeman and Montana. Upon which an angry outraged pajama boy Californian writes a screed to the editor demanding that we ban firearms, get a good hair salon, and turn Montana into the cesspool he left behind.

Just the view from one deplorable"s keyboard

StuBleedsBlue2
01-09-2021, 11:45 AM
But the pretty dumb guy part of the well armed well planned serious attempted coup and overthrow of the United States government! Yeah, it was Buffalo guy, Pelosi office guy, lectern guy, the heroin addict, the guys and gals wandering the capitol with their phones looking to do something they dunno what? Yeah, and the haute couture of the Proud Boys shows just how serious they were! And the guy who had and unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition in DC! Reminds me of all the Californians (a generic term for the rich covid refugees) moving up here and looking out their windows and seeing a guy walking down the street with a pistol on their hip. After recovering from his high altitude induced fainting spell, but still light-headed, the Californian calls 911 and shrieks that "a man with a pistol walked by just a few feet from my window!" --and the operator has to inform him that it's legal to open carry in Bozeman and Montana. Upon which an angry outraged pajama boy Californian writes a screed to the editor demanding that we ban firearms, get a good hair salon, and turn Montana into the cesspool he left behind.

Just the view from one deplorable"s keyboard

You find the California man calling 911 about seeing a man legally carrying a pistol outrageous?

Well, maybe you can start to think about the thousands and thousands of black people that have had police called on them for simply existing. At least the pistol man you describe has absolutely NO chance of being stopped by police, thrown to the ground and possibly beaten or killed. Maybe you should think about what these people have to go through instead of the pistol carrying dude that faces absolutely no threat to their safety.

I would like to ask a few of the 4,000 black people that live in Montana if they have ever been harassed by simply just walking down the street or passing by someone's window. I have a suspicion that more than a few have faced unnecessary harassment that have infringed upon their freedoms.

Just a thought from some superior asshole.

bigsky
01-10-2021, 10:14 AM
Look! A Malaysian Airliner!

ukpumacat
01-10-2021, 12:23 PM
Another Capitol police officer has died. Took his own life. Just sad.

ukpumacat
01-10-2021, 12:26 PM
"I haven’t yet said this publically, but I want to now. On Wednesday I felt literally and real evil as the insurrection went down. It is not something that happens much, but I’ve never felt it stronger than that day. Mass deception."

A Republican Congressman this morning.

ukpumacat
01-10-2021, 02:11 PM
Fwiw, the White House just lowered the flag. I'm glad.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-10-2021, 03:36 PM
Fwiw, the White House just lowered the flag. I'm glad.

The right thing to do. Took way too long.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-10-2021, 03:40 PM
I'm not sure how THIS (https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1348334770103660553) fits in with Blue Lives Matter.

Yet another distinction between the Insurrection and the summer riots, where nobody was beating and killing the people they "support".

ukpumacat
01-10-2021, 04:20 PM
Btw, this guy who I posted about the other day has been identified and arrested.

9906

Here he is (his social media has since all been taken down. But same as you would expect.)

9907

catmanjack
01-10-2021, 04:26 PM
Huge extremist and domestic terrorist that should be dealt with accordingly.
No true Americans support these actions nor those of any other group.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-10-2021, 04:31 PM
Huge extremist and domestic terrorist that should be dealt with accordingly.
No true Americans support these actions nor those of any other group.

Sadly you are wrong, unless you are saying that nearly half your party are not true Americans.

Did you miss the polling that 45% of Republicans support the events at the Capitol? That poll, interestingly enough actually had 3% of Democrats that supported it as well.

https://www.newsweek.com/45-percent-republican-voters-support-storming-capitol-1559662

https://www.newsweek.com/51-percent-americans-believe-capitol-riots-were-attempted-coup-poll-1559792

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/533452-poll-18-percent-of-republicans-support-capitol-riots

ukpumacat
01-10-2021, 04:37 PM
Here is a video of a militia group called the "Oath Keepers" marching through the crowd (armed) to take siege at the Capitol. A quick google search will show all kinds of stuff.

https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1348115530654347266?s=20

In short, its a "pro Trump militia made up of former and active duty law enforcement and military".

And here is an article from the Atlantic on them from last year. Its about Civil War.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/right-wing-militias-civil-war/616473/

catmanjack
01-10-2021, 04:38 PM
But Stu everyone is wrong in your eyes!

StuBleedsBlue2
01-10-2021, 05:15 PM
But Stu everyone is wrong in your eyes!

I'm not sure what that means, but how I am interpreting this, that is wrong too.

Have you not seen the posts of where I agree with people?

ukpumacat
01-10-2021, 05:53 PM
This is a video going viral right now (mostly on Parler). They take Trump's comments (out of context) to a call for war on January 20th.
Btw, if you don't think they mean a literal war, the creator is on Youtube outright saying that is what he means.

https://video.parler.com/D2/fo/D2fovQB1v4M2_small.mp4?fbclid=IwAR2dzJvApDp0W5B8F6 5fnzmruTu1vvoN9MqzR_-7FWD61S7LVrznAkCO_Ns

StuBleedsBlue2
01-10-2021, 06:08 PM
This is a video going viral right now (mostly on Parler). They take Trump's comments (out of context) to a call for war on January 20th.
Btw, if you don't think they mean a literal war, the creator is on Youtube outright saying that is what he means.

https://video.parler.com/D2/fo/D2fovQB1v4M2_small.mp4?fbclid=IwAR2dzJvApDp0W5B8F6 5fnzmruTu1vvoN9MqzR_-7FWD61S7LVrznAkCO_Ns

You, me and a few others take this SO seriously.

The rest...Meh, what about the summer riots? This is just a few bad actors. We're talking about this way too much.

ukpumacat
01-10-2021, 06:18 PM
You, me and a few others take this SO seriously.

The rest...Meh, what about the summer riots? This is just a few bad actors. We're talking about this way too much.

The good news is that I THINK law enforcement will be much better prepared now. Not just in DC but also at State Capitols all over America (which the "blue states" turning red is alluding to...attacks at those State Capitols).
It may not stop people from trying but I think everyone is on edge now.
And as we have said...these Trump supporters are posting this openly and publicly because....well, they are dumb.

But I fully expect a shootout at some point somewhere. And/or a bombing. Just a reminder, they found two pipe bombs already planted that day and many more that were not planted yet. This was to be a massacre.

I can tell you this, the Secret Service (who is in charge of the inauguration) will not be nearly as reticent to use force.

I also think in due time the arrest and federal charges coming the way of the hundreds who made it inside the Capitol will help keep some at bay.
But, that video shows the radicalization that has happened. Some will not care to do time or die.
These are full on domestic terrorists.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-11-2021, 04:18 PM
The good news is that I THINK law enforcement will be much better prepared now. Not just in DC but also at State Capitols all over America (which the "blue states" turning red is alluding to...attacks at those State Capitols).
It may not stop people from trying but I think everyone is on edge now.
And as we have said...these Trump supporters are posting this openly and publicly because....well, they are dumb.

But I fully expect a shootout at some point somewhere. And/or a bombing. Just a reminder, they found two pipe bombs already planted that day and many more that were not planted yet. This was to be a massacre.

I can tell you this, the Secret Service (who is in charge of the inauguration) will not be nearly as reticent to use force.

I also think in due time the arrest and federal charges coming the way of the hundreds who made it inside the Capitol will help keep some at bay.
But, that video shows the radicalization that has happened. Some will not care to do time or die.
These are full on domestic terrorists.

You are right.

CNN just obtained reports from the FBI of the planned armed attacks on all 50 state capitols and DC in the days leading up to inauguration. That includes direct threats to Biden, Harris and Pelosi. Meanwhile, the acting head of DHS just stepped down.

ukpumacat
01-11-2021, 04:24 PM
Two Capitol police officers suspended and one arrested.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-11-2021, 05:27 PM
This is just TOO FUNNY!!

Poor little baby can't get his organic food. (https://twitter.com/MelissaBlasius/status/1348740338827939841)

:671:

:sHa_dielaughing:

:lmao:

Catfan73
01-11-2021, 05:33 PM
Awh that’s a shame. Sad.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-12-2021, 10:11 AM
New details emerge about the planned attack on the US Capitol.

4,000 armed terrorists are to surround the Capitol in an effort to block any Democrat from entering the building, with rules of engagement on when to fire or hold.

The Senate is being briefed on these details now.

It would be nice if we had a President who would talk to the American people about the threat we face from enemies, how to stay safe and ensure everyone that their safety is top priority.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-12-2021, 12:44 PM
The more that I reflect back on what happened last week and what is planned for next week combined with Republican responses that pretty much border on 'let's move past this', the real problem is what happened over the summer, I can't help but to think about the Republican reaction to Benghazi.

So, if Republicans think that an attack by foreign enemies on our embassy that killed 4 Americans warranted years and years of repeated hearings, then you should have a sense of the minimum that will happen (if nothing else at all happens) over the next 5-10 years. It will be enjoyable to watch the Trump inner circle all testify in front of Congress for hours and hours, under oath, where they can potentially face consequences for lying.

As much as the sycophants want this to go away, everyone else realizes the real damage (especially relative to an incident like Benghazi that happened under several President's watch), they are in for a rude awakening and will have enormous impact of perception of incumbents and candidates in the future as it has in the past and ultimately gave us Trump.

StuBleedsBlue2
01-13-2021, 08:19 AM
This is just TOO FUNNY!!

Poor little baby can't get his organic food. (https://twitter.com/MelissaBlasius/status/1348740338827939841)

:671:

:sHa_dielaughing:

:lmao:

And in another exercise in white privilege, the prison has given him his organic food (https://news.yahoo.com/horned-trump-supporter-fed-organic-220500141.html).

ukpumacat
01-14-2021, 12:48 PM
Wow at this article about the militia groups that planned part of the Capitol attack.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-former-marine-stormed-the-capitol-as-part-of-a-far-right-militia

“The only good Black person is a dead Black person." Yikes.