For those using Parler - Be careful

[ukpumacat]

Saw this article and wanted to pass it on since I know a few of you use Parler.
In short, the CEO admits they have no system for detecting child sex abuse videos. And porn websites/companies have already infiltrated the site and taken over many of the maga hashtags (which is legal).
CEO says the only system they have in place for illegal pics/videos and imagery are people reporting it. Anyways, just be careful on there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/02/parler-pornography-problem/

[KSRBEvans]

Puma, I edited your "Parker" to "Parler" in your title--I assume that was a typo, hope you don't mind.

I looked at the title & couldn't figure out what "Parker" was. :)

[KSRBEvans]

As to your post, it's a good heads-up. Me, I'm trying to find a way to streamline my social media, not add another service to it.

[ukpumacat]

Puma, I edited your "Parker" to "Parler" in your title--I assume that was a typo, hope you don't mind.

I looked at the title & couldn't figure out what "Parker" was. :)

Ha. Thanks! Yes, that is what I meant.

Ya, to each his own on what they want to use. I don't care either way. Just saw the article and thought it was good to know. I remember reading a story once about a coach who had a "university cell phone". But it was basically his and had been for a long time. Anyways, it stopped working and he turned it in when they gave him a new one.
The IT guy at the University went on to wipe it and saw thousands and thousands of family photos. There were a few that the coach/dad had taken of his kids when they were tiny (like toddlers I think) playing in the bath (most parents have done this).

Long story short, the coach was arrested for child pornography. True story. He lost his job, etc.

In short, be careful out there on any site or social media that doesn't actively stop that stuff. Its easy to share, like, retweet, open etc a link that has something you didn't mean to see or share. I know everyone is in a "free speech" tizzy. But there is a reason these websites/social media companies have filters and restrictions.

[dan_bgblue]

Puma, I edited your "Parker" to "Parler" in your title--I assume that was a typo, hope you don't mind.

I looked at the title & couldn't figure out what "Parker" was. :)

When I first saw the title, I thought it was a warning about ink pens, and after reading further and finding out it wasn't I was really disappointed.

[KeithKSR]

I have an account, don’t use it much at all. Rarely use Twitter and have cut way back on FB.

[kingcat]

I'm still not joining!

[KentuckyWildcat]

I'm just on FB and that is limited. I use the messenger a lot. My FB is mostly a news feed of things I like to follow. I've unfollowed many people :)

For anyone that wants to follow the most boring FB poster of all time...
https://www.facebook.com/tony.nelson.509/

[ukpumacat]

When I first saw the title, I thought it was a warning about ink pens, and after reading further and finding out it wasn't I was really disappointed.

Haha. My bad.

[VirginiaCat]

Saw this article and wanted to pass it on since I know a few of you use Parler.
In short, the CEO admits they have no system for detecting child sex abuse videos. And porn websites/companies have already infiltrated the site and taken over many of the maga hashtags (which is legal).
CEO says the only system they have in place for illegal pics/videos and imagery are people reporting it. Anyways, just be careful on there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/02/parler-pornography-problem/

Been on the site for about 4 weeks now. No issues. I screen who I follow, and who follows me.

[ukpumacat]

Apple warning Parler has 24 hours to moderate itself:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/apple-threatens-ban-parler

Part of their letter talks about the hundreds of posts I have seen calling for the Jan 6th attack and planning one on Jan 19th.

9900

[ukpumacat]

Have read Google has sent a similar notice.

[StuBleedsBlue2]

Some good steps are being taken to put all this stuff back where it belongs. I'm not sure that anything can put the "genie" back in the bottle, but maybe if it is harder to access, fewer people can be brainwashed such as the lady insurgent that lost her life (and people that I once considered friends).

[CitizenBBN]

Some good steps are being taken to put all this stuff back where it belongs. I'm not sure that anything can put the "genie" back in the bottle, but maybe if it is harder to access, fewer people can be brainwashed such as the lady insurgent that lost her life (and people that I once considered friends).

We can't stop with social media. There are plenty of printed papers and books that need to be burned too, to protect people from themselves. And speeches, we can't forget speeches from people like Trump Jr and Trump and Guliani and what they did, so we have to crack down on those too.

"Insurgent". lol.

It's just gotten impossible to tell the fascists apart in this country, which is why I bowed out of this circle jerk. Everyone seems to want fascism these days, just so long as their side wins. It's like watching the Spanish Civil war, but without as much Google translate.

[dan_bgblue]

If we want to cut back on the brainwashing, then we absolutely can not stop at social media sites. The main stream media has to be stifled as well, and many print publications would have to be shut down.

[VirginiaCat]

I'm on it. I simply read posts and make echos. I have not done hashtags honestly because I never know if I am doing it right and do not click on any.

Someone needs to put out a statment though. The paranoia is going nuts ....as you can imagine.

[ukpumacat]

I think banning him was likely a mistake. Having said that, what is happening with Parler is deserved. They have people on there talking openly about attacks on government buildings and politicians and refuse to take it down.

I'm all for free speech. I'm not at all for planning attacks on government buildings or officials.

[StuBleedsBlue2]

We can't stop with social media. There are plenty of printed papers and books that need to be burned too, to protect people from themselves. And speeches, we can't forget speeches from people like Trump Jr and Trump and Guliani and what they did, so we have to crack down on those too.

"Insurgent". lol.

It's just gotten impossible to tell the fascists apart in this country, which is why I bowed out of this circle jerk. Everyone seems to want fascism these days, just so long as their side wins. It's like watching the Spanish Civil war, but without as much Google translate.

I'm not advocating for an end to social media at all. I am completely supportive of the platforms setting their own rules as long as they stick to them. Without social media, we would not be able to find all of these insurgents, so it is a great law enforcement tool.

It may be impossible for you to distinguish between the fascists. It's pretty easy for most of us.

I don't want fascism at all, which is why I have been so vocal about Trump for years. I just want our country to do better than it has, for everyone to have an equal and fair chance. I embrace diversity but I have to draw the line somewhere and had to do so with Trump and eventually his base because it did not take that much to understand that this is exactly what would happen to our nation.

In fact, it was SO predictable that the Simpsons made fun of it in 2000. They didn't get it totally right though. No way they could've predicted that he wanted to overthrow American Democracy. That really didn't get on our radar until the last 6-8 years.

[StuBleedsBlue2]

I think banning him was likely a mistake. Having said that, what is happening with Parler is deserved. They have people on there talking openly about attacks on government buildings and politicians and refuse to take it down.

I'm all for free speech. I'm not at all for planning attacks on government buildings or officials.

I agree that banning him permanently is not the best approach, but then again, he received warning after warning and Twitter does have policy.

I'm all for free speech too, but just like all freedoms, they have their limitations in the name of public safety. If Trump wants to speak, he can keep making those cowardly (a normal President would just speak to the press) videos.

[Catfan73]

Google has apparently suspended Parlor from the App Store.

[catmanjack]

Well it starts in the schools and is taught heavily on college campuses by professors who kids look up to and follow.

If we want to cut back on the brainwashing, then we absolutely can not stop at social media sites. The main stream media has to be stifled as well, and many print publications would have to be shut down.

[TRUCKERCATFAN]

This is scary as hell. Big tech and Silicon Valley are basically controlling and banning conservative voice outlets. This should scare every person on here and everywhere.

[catmanjack]

Nothing new that Candice Owens has not talked about.
We are being controlled and lead in every direction.
Thats why the give me everything for free sector is hard for me to believe.

[StuBleedsBlue2]

This is scary as hell. Big tech and Silicon Valley are basically controlling and banning conservative voice outlets. This should scare every person on here and everywhere.

I’ve been told that there is a difference between conservatives and the MAGAt terrorists. Are you saying that’s not the case?

The reason why I ask is that I follow a whole lot of Conservatives on social media that are not repeatedly violating policies.

[bigsky]

So with the removal of the western canon from universities and high schools, the attack on enlightened western civilization continues. Look it up, all over the country institutions will #removethetexts I've seen Twain and Homer removed just in the last few days. When I told you guys years ago about the attack on western civilization by what we now call the woke, social identity democrats, you were pretty blase. Now you can't get use technology on your apple phone. Western civilization is being dismantled by the triumphant Biden/Pelosi/Schumer triumverate and their allies.

[StuBleedsBlue2]

So with the removal of the western canon from universities and high schools, the attack on enlightened western civilization continues. Look it up, all over the country institutions will #removethetexts I've seen Twain and Homer removed just in the last few days. When I told you guys years ago about the attack on western civilization by what we now call the woke, social identity democrats, you were pretty blase. Now you can't get use technology on your apple phone. Western civilization is being dismantled by the triumphant Biden/Pelosi/Schumer triumverate and their allies.

#removethetexts is not a new phenomenon. It's been going on before any of us were born in a different way, obviously with social media a recent invention.

For all of the books that people are getting outraged that are being removed, how about the books that were never allowed into the curriculum? They are every bit as meaningful, enriching and important to our history and culture.

The concern should be when people cannot access these things, not because an entity does not provide them. We can make our own choices to seek them out.

[ukpumacat]

Conservatives: Congress needs to stop regulating and enforcing! Let the Free Market Decide!
Free Market: *Decides something*
Conservatives: You can't decide that! Congress must fix this!

[StuBleedsBlue2]

Conservatives: Congress needs to stop regulating and enforcing! Let the Free Market Decide!
Free Market: *Decides something*
Conservatives: You can't decide that! Congress must fix this!

😀

So true.

[Catfan73]

Well it’s not like he’s been silenced. He’s even got a press room in that big White House he lives in that he’s free to use anytime he wants.

[TRUCKERCATFAN]

Conservatives: Congress needs to stop regulating and enforcing! Let the Free Market Decide!
Free Market: *Decides something*
Conservatives: You can't decide that! Congress must fix this!

Liberals: 2016 election was illegitimate and needs to be investigated.

Liberals: Trump has no right to contest 2020 election results. It was all legit.

All depends on which side you are on my friend.

[StuBleedsBlue2]

Liberals: 2016 election was illegitimate and needs to be investigated.

Liberals: Trump has no right to contest 2020 election results. It was all legit.

All depends on which side you are on my friend.

What a fantasy. I’ve never met a liberal, myself included that thought/thinks this.

The 2016 election was legitimate. Trump had every right to contest and present evidence, to which he failed.

[Doc]

Liberals and big tech users have been besmirching Parler for quite some time, calling it a congregation of white supremacists, antisemetic child pornographers (aka republicans). I've yet to encounter any kiddie porn or racist posts...but if I did I would report and move on. Part of a free society is having options, and not just the options some people like

[TRUCKERCATFAN]

What a fantasy. I’ve never met a liberal, myself included that thought/thinks this.

The 2016 election was legitimate. Trump had every right to contest and present evidence, to which he failed.

Not a fantasy. Trump has been called illegitimate by the other side since he was elected. They’ve spent four years investigating and trying to push the whole Russian interference crap.

[Doc]

Not a fantasy. Trump has been called illegitimate by the other side since he was elected. They’ve spent four years investigating and trying to push the whole Russian interference crap.

Don't waste your time. Best approach is to ignore. You will be happier

[StuBleedsBlue2]

Not a fantasy. Trump has been called illegitimate by the other side since he was elected. They’ve spent four years investigating and trying to push the whole Russian interference crap.

Nonsense.

The Republican Senate Intelligence committee determined that Russia interfered in the election in favor of Trump. So did the Mueller report.

There’s a difference in saying there is interference and whether an election is legitimate or not.

Trump won and lost the election fairly. There was no voter fraud to impact either election, but Russia absolutely used social media as a tool to influence people. Those people still went to the ballot box and cast their votes legally.

See the difference?

[StuBleedsBlue2]

Ignoring facts and believing alternative facts is how you end up with a President as a traitor, 23 million COVID cases, several hundred thousand deaths and entire families spreading to one another.

[TRUCKERCATFAN]

Don't waste your time. Best approach is to ignore. You will be happier

True. Wish this site had an ignore/block feature.

[ukpumacat]

Liberals and big tech users have been besmirching Parler for quite some time, calling it a congregation of white supremacists, antisemetic child pornographers (aka republicans). I've yet to encounter any kiddie porn or racist posts...but if I did I would report and move on. Part of a free society is having options, and not just the options some people like

Never been on there and honestly don't know hardly a thing about it. But, I do not think kiddie porn or plans of violence against the government should be allowed. Just my two cents.

[StuBleedsBlue2]

I guess I missed the memo that said Parler talking points should include Republicans as child pornographers. I thought that was Q-Anon.

It’s really bizarre. I’ve seen several things today said about what liberals have said over the years. I’m a liberal and a progressive and somehow I have missed all of that.

Maybe some of my more left if center friends can point me towards where all these things happened.

[Catfan73]

The funny thing about Parler is it’s owned by the Mercer’s, of Cambridge Analytica, of the Facebook-Cambridge Analytica data mining scandal. There’s a certain level of irony in all these people moving from Facebook to Parler.

[ukpumacat]

Fwiw, I also don’t think I should be able to sell cocaine on Offer Up.

[catmanjack]

Now we get the truth of how you live in California.

[Doc]

Never been on there and honestly don't know hardly a thing about it. But, I do not think kiddie porn or plans of violence against the government should be allowed. Just my two cents.

As I said, I have been there and not seen any kiddie porn or calls for voilence. Only place I hear those accusations is from people and places not on the site....and the nonbias media

[Catfan73]

Word is now that Amazon Web Services is suspending them. They have until midnight tonight to find another hosting service.

[GhettoBird]

Now we get the truth of how you live in California.

This made me chuckle.

[Doc]

Hypocrisy once again. When I did stuff on facebook I repeatedly got invite etc from "adult" sites and posters wanting to "be my friend"...as did my kids. I would also get "hot 23 yr old in Stuart looking for a companion" type things.
Was no control there. I did same as I do on Parler, ignore them because there was no method to block them

[TRUCKERCATFAN]

No offense to my more liberal friends on here but if you see this banning of Parler as anything other than a silencing of conservative speech, then you really have your head in the sand.

[Catfan73]

If it was merely conservative talk everyone wouldn’t be banning them.

[TRUCKERCATFAN]

If it was merely conservative talk everyone wouldn’t be banning them.

Ok. Sure.

[Doc]

If it was merely conservative talk everyone wouldn’t be banning them.

yes, its all the antisemitic, racist, homophobic speech of the Trump supporters which I have never seen that is too much.

Here is the Wiki description:

Parler has a significant user base of Donald Trump supporters, conservatives, conspiracy theorists, and right-wing extremists. Posts on the service often contain far-right content, antisemitism, and conspiracy theories such as QAnon. Journalists have described Parler as an alternative to Twitter, and users include those banned from mainstream social networks or opposing their moderation policies.

Because Trump supports by definition are conspiracy theorist (not like those on the left who claim Trump is the Manchurin Candidate for Russia) and antisemites. Clearly Wiki needs to update to add child pornographers and anarchists.

[ukpumacat]

Now we get the truth of how you live in California.

Haha

[dan_bgblue]

Parler going dark (https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/parler-down-amazon-web-services-ban)

[ukpumacat]

Parler going dark (https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/parler-down-amazon-web-services-ban)

They have no choice. They don't have the infrastructure or staff to moderate their app. That is the real issue. Frankly, they will be back, be better and have more users than ever.

Btw, all of this will be for naught because I can nearly guarantee you that Trump will release his own in due time. He is about to become a digital giant and will make a fortune.

[VirginiaCat]

The only solution to this is to hit the Big Tech in the pocketbook. how do we do that. Take away their ad revenue/hits. I am leaving FB. I am leaving Twitter. I am leaving Gmail (I was a beta tester in May of 2004, one month after it started).

It is going to be a PITA to shift all my contacts from gmail. but I am taking what revenue I can from those Tech entities. I would do same to the media entities but I never watch them anyway unless they have a sporting event I want to watch...and I quit NFL and NBA already.

[ukpumacat]

The only solution to this is to hit the Big Tech in the pocketbook. how do we do that. Take away their ad revenue/hits. I am leaving FB. I am leaving Twitter. I am leaving Gmail (I was a beta tester in May of 2004, one month after it started).

It is going to be a PITA to shift all my contacts from gmail. but I am taking what revenue I can from those Tech entities. I would do same to the media entities but I never watch them anyway unless they have a sporting event I want to watch...and I quit NFL and NBA already.

Well, you can at least eat your Goya beans while you do ;)

[Doc]

The only solution to this is to hit the Big Tech in the pocketbook. how do we do that. Take away their ad revenue/hits. I am leaving FB. I am leaving Twitter. I am leaving Gmail (I was a beta tester in May of 2004, one month after it started).

It is going to be a PITA to shift all my contacts from gmail. but I am taking what revenue I can from those Tech entities. I would do same to the media entities but I never watch them anyway unless they have a sporting event I want to watch...and I quit NFL and NBA already.

Go to AOL.com

[StuBleedsBlue2]

No offense to my more liberal friends on here but if you see this banning of Parler as anything other than a silencing of conservative speech, then you really have your head in the sand.

No offense, but conservative speech is not being silenced. I would suspect that 99% of Parler users are not banned on Twitter, FB, IG and other social media sites.

You are simply seeing the effects of capitalism where two sides enter an agreement of terms and conditions. One side breaks the terms of those conditions, repeatedly. The other side exercises their rights to term the agreement and there ya go.

I suppose you're just salty because capitalism has worked against you this time.

Parler, Trump and anyone else that has been permanently suspended are free to have their day in court instead of whining about them being silenced. That is the system we have in place.

[TRUCKERCATFAN]

No offense, but conservative speech is not being silenced. I would suspect that 99% of Parler users are not banned on Twitter, FB, IG and other social media sites.

You are simply seeing the effects of capitalism where two sides enter an agreement of terms and conditions. One side breaks the terms of those conditions, repeatedly. The other side exercises their rights to term the agreement and there ya go.

I suppose you're just salty because capitalism has worked against you this time.

Parler, Trump and anyone else that has been permanently suspended are free to have their day in court instead of whining about them being silenced. That is the system we have in place.

If I ignore you would you go away?

[catmanjack]

Like a nat!

[StuBleedsBlue2]

If I ignore you would you go away?

No

[Doc]

As is becoming more an more apparent, this has NOTHING to do with unregulated or child pornography. It has 100% to do with Parler subscribers being more conservative, and a method for them to communicate. It was never about kiddie porn. Those who support the censorship consistently use the FB/Twitter/instagram/Apple/Google are private companies, and then ignore the antitrust laws. They also ignore the liability exclusion cut out for them.

Funny that FB etc...had no issue with Maxine Waters promoting violence. Didn't have any issues with democrats speaking against the election in 2001, 2005 and 2017. Nor did they speak out when liberal stormed the Hart building in 2020 (a federal building) demanding Trumps removal. None of these were removed from social media (nor should they have been). So quit with the double standards because the hypocrisy would be funny were it not just sad