AOC should be dancing in the streets

[dan_bgblue]

On the other hand she may be crying in her extra fermented mead. Keep this company name in your thoughts......Verdox. It may just extend the life of the world as we know it beyond the 12 year life prediction, and it won't require a 90 trillion dollar investment, nor force anyone wanting to visit Europe to learn the skill of sailing a multiple masted vessel.

https://news.mit.edu/2019/mit-engineers-develop-new-way-remove-carbon-dioxide-air-1025

[Doc]

It is not 100% about the envirnment. Much is about control and maintaining power. Part of this Green New Deal is minimum living wage paid to everybody...has nothing to do with the environment. Same for Universal Health care, also part of the GND.

[CitizenBBN]

It has almost nothing to do with the environment. Nada. Unless they just extended it to including military invasion and occupation of China, India, etc. it has nothing to do with impacting global temperatures.

It has a lot to do with power, control, and pigs moving into the farmer's house and periodically changing the commandments written on the barn.

[suncat05]

Nice "Animal Fam" reference.
A classic book with a timeless storyline.

[Catfan73]

Wow. If this can work large-scale we’ll all be dancing in the street.

[CitizenBBN]

This is a classic problem with socialist/leftist politics and economics. The model on which it is all based has a number of very serious flaws.

The first and most obvious is ignoring that man is homo economicus, and ignoring the incentives that it gives people for sloth and selfishness.

But second to that, and a close second, is the assumption of the zero sum game. It doesn't account for the market incentivizing developments such as technology to address demands and problems.

This is most easily seen in the area of leftist environmental politics, where since the 1960s the doomsayers such as the Ehrlich's, Brown at the World Watch Institute predicted the end of the world based on assumptions that basically we would never advance beyond our current technological state.

In fact those arguments are based in much older work by people like Robert Thomas Malthus, famous for the "Malthusian Dilemma" which theorized population would grow exponentially and food production would only grow linearly. Of course that presumes no advancements in food production technology, which has proven to be utterly false.


The Green New Deal and in fact all of these socialist/doomsayer predictions are the same. They are utterly false and have been empirically disproven for centuries now, yet they still advance them.

Why? B/c advancing them persuades people to concentrate power in their hands, and they are convinced beyond levels of religious faith that they know what's best for everyone.

[dan_bgblue]

EColi eats CO2 in the lab (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/11/191127161450.htm)

[kingcat]

Awesome news.

[dan_bgblue]

Another amazing chemical advancement (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/11/191126155523.htm)

[CitizenBBN]

Thus my point about the free market. I've been on this ride since the 1970s, I know how it goes.

All of these projections of course assume a status quo scenario, where we don't have changing technology, etc. to deal with problems. It's existed since Malthus and the coming mass starvations, and it continues with global warming.

None of those projections ever have dealt with the fact that technology changes and we have, so far, every single time, found a solution.

To think our only solution now is to ban meat eating and impose a Travel Ministry on us to approve our trips is insulting, wrong and dangerouns.

[kingcat]

Now, depending on the Verdox company's commercialization and despite cost, we must ensure industry complies with its implementation. Hopefully its a no brain'er for them as well, and works.

But I am even more interested in the potential for removing CO 2 from the atmosphere itself. And converting the waste to usable energy. Perhaps installing such a device on every commercial aircraft (patent pending) to reduce existing CO2 quickly. :)

In a working plant — for example, in a power plant where exhaust gas is being produced continuously — two sets of such stacks of the electrochemical cells could be set up side by side to operate in parallel, with flue gas being directed first at one set for carbon capture, then diverted to the second set while the first set goes into its discharge cycle. By alternating back and forth, the system could always be both capturing and discharging the gas. In the lab, the team has proven the system can withstand at least 7,000 charging-discharging cycles, with a 30 percent loss in efficiency over that time. The researchers estimate that they can readily improve that to 20,000 to 50,000 cycles.


The whole world will be receptive to this technology. Implement it now without wasting time on cost analysis, profit margins and such. Instead do the right thing by creating jobs and spreading the tech worldwide as our contribution to GW.