Can we at least arrest the minions for this debacle?

[CitizenBBN]

If you've missed it, the IG report on the email scandal shows that the State IT staff turned off their OWN security filters temporarily b/c the software was seeing emails from the Clinton server as spam and blocking them. Rather than having Clinton use a government system their solution was to turn off their own protections.

That means the Department of State system was exposed to all sorts of attacks, esp. phishing attacks. Given that I doubt most DoS employees knew it was off, that means they would be more likely to click on an email b/c they'd be used to such things being blocked and think it was legit.

We also KNOW that Russian presence in the system was detected in 2014 and was there for a while. This security was turned off in 2010. It's not conclusive but it's entirely possible the Russians got in b/c of that open window and once someone clicked on a phishing email they were able to get their virus up and running behind the system firewalls.

If nothing else, shouldn't those who approved that security lapse be in irons? We KNOW they intentionally turned off security and exposed the DoS system to potential hacking, KNOWING that foreign governments and hackers are CONSTANTLY, every day trying to hack those systems.

Those people would be the start, right? Of course once you arrest them for breach of their obligations to secure the system, you ask them who ordered them to do those things.... but lets at least start rounding up the various trigger men involved.

[CitizenBBN]

Oh, and while it's not necessarily illegal, the AP discovery that Clinton and State have hidden dozens and dozens if not hundreds of appointments and meetings and calls from the media and the public shows what was going on here all along, just as many here said.

She wanted no paper trail of her actions. She suppressed info on meetings with Wall Street leaders, Clinton Foundation directors and donors, as well as other foreign and domestic meetings.

In short, she didn't want a trail of her gray area activities that could be used to paint a pattern of her deep involvement with big business (not illegal but a problem politically), or her involvement with the Foundation, but most of all she didn't want anyone to know about her decisions at State or the massive influence peddling going on.

Trump is an ass, but Hillary is a felon who has willingly sold her country out for personal power and gain. I've followed politics on this level closely since I was in middle school, I've never seen anything like the level of graft and corruption and disregard for the law the Clintons have shown. obama has been over the top in his use of executive power, but to his credit I've seen little of the spoils of war corruption I expected. clinton OTOH has been rife with it during her time in his administration.

[bigsky]

Yes

[Doc]

If you've missed it, the IG report on the email scandal shows that the State IT staff turned off their OWN security filters temporarily b/c the software was seeing emails from the Clinton server as spam and blocking them. Rather than having Clinton use a government system their solution was to turn off their own protections.

That means the Department of State system was exposed to all sorts of attacks, esp. phishing attacks. Given that I doubt most DoS employees knew it was off, that means they would be more likely to click on an email b/c they'd be used to such things being blocked and think it was legit.

We also KNOW that Russian presence in the system was detected in 2014 and was there for a while. This security was turned off in 2010. It's not conclusive but it's entirely possible the Russians got in b/c of that open window and once someone clicked on a phishing email they were able to get their virus up and running behind the system firewalls.

If nothing else, shouldn't those who approved that security lapse be in irons? We KNOW they intentionally turned off security and exposed the DoS system to potential hacking, KNOWING that foreign governments and hackers are CONSTANTLY, every day trying to hack those systems.

Those people would be the start, right? Of course once you arrest them for breach of their obligations to secure the system, you ask them who ordered them to do those things.... but lets at least start rounding up the various trigger men involved.


which is why they haven't arrested anybody yet

[CitizenBBN]

which is why they haven't arrested anybody yet

That's exactly why. They are mostly career government people, some of them may not be willing to fall on their swords and careers for Hillary.

[CitizenBBN]

now we have PROOF she deleted work related emails that weren't handed over, esp. emails discussing her desire to keep such things from review.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/27/more-clinton-emails-released-including-some-deleted.html?intcmp=hpbt4

As I said long ago, state should be able to reconstruct much of the record, any emails to anyone at state with a government account, just as they'd have been able to hand over Lerner's emails the same way. But State and the IRS are just repressing that information and flouting open records laws.

As for Hillary, she's guilty as hell. this is yet another violation of her signed agreements with holding the office.

[suncat05]

Guys, nothing is going to happen. The only way she pays any price at all is if she loses the election. That's it. That is the worst, and possibly only thing that is going to happen from all of this. And do any of you really believe that her Communist cohort in the Oval Office doesn't already have a full and unconditional pardon already printed and ready to be signed for the old hag? Of course he does, he's not going to let her go down even though he dislikes her beyond belief. After all, if he pardons her then there is no leverage to get to him or others like Valerie Jarrett or either of the last two USAG's.
Nope, unless somebody not named Clinton is the next occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, these criminals and creeps are going to skate. And if the old hag does win the election, we can all be sure that the lawlessness on display currently will probably seem like a pleasant Sunday afternoon walk in the park compared to what we will see Slick Willie and the old hag do the 2nd time around once they're in the White House again.

[KeithKSR]

Guys, nothing is going to happen. The only way she pays any price at all is if she loses the election. That's it. That is the worst, and possibly only thing that is going to happen from all of this. And do any of you really believe that her Communist cohort in the Oval Office doesn't already have a full and unconditional pardon already printed and ready to be signed for the old hag? Of course he does, he's not going to let her go down even though he dislikes her beyond belief. After all, if he pardons her then there is no leverage to get to him or others like Valerie Jarrett or either of the last two USAG's.
Nope, unless somebody not named Clinton is the next occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, these criminals and creeps are going to skate. And if the old hag does win the election, we can all be sure that the lawlessness on display currently will probably seem like a pleasant Sunday afternoon walk in the park compared to what we will see Slick Willie and the old hag do the 2nd time around once they're in the White House again.

Obama could also wait and let Justice indict her on the eve of the DNC convention, allowing his good buddy Joe Biden step in and run with Liz as his sidekick.

[suncat05]

That is a possibility, Keith. With this current crop of human vermin, anything is possible.

[Doc]

Obama could also wait and let Justice indict her on the eve of the DNC convention, allowing his good buddy Joe Biden step in and run with Liz as his sidekick.

IMO that would be a disaster for the democrats. It would be difficult for that to not taint the party. Folks can ignore the issue with Hillary until there is an indictment but once that happens, lots of folks will shy away from the party.

[CitizenBBN]

Oh yeah, no special treatment in this investigation.

They just happened by sheer coincidence to conduct her 3+ hour interview on a weekend of a major holiday so it will be completely buried in the news cycle. Oh no, perfectly normal for the FBI to do these investigations on 4th of July Weekend. I think they did Al Capone's on Christmas Eve.

Oh, and that meeting with Bill Clinton was anything but impromptu. That was a planned meeting that just got out thanks to a reporter who was paying attention. Otherwise how did Clinton know the Attorney General was landing at that same airport and just happened to be there himself and then waited, then had people get off her plane to keep reporters etc. at bay with the FBI apparently telling people to not take pictures and then Clinton walks over?

That yellow liquid running down our backs is NOT rain.

[suncat05]

Oh, "the fix" is in, there is no doubt in my mind about that. The old hag is not going to be indicted. Period. Not no way, not no how. And all of that crap that Lynch put out about following the recommendations of her attorneys and investigators, well.........isn't that her damn job to begin with? But she's not going to allow the old hag to be indicted.
And truthfully, on the other side of this equation, I am still not sure that Trump is the answer either. But given a choice between him and the old hag, well, most of you guys know.........

[dan_bgblue]

And all of that crap that Lynch put out about following the recommendations of her attorneys and investigators, well.........isn't that her damn job to begin with?

Yes it is, but she wants to reinforce that idea in the sheeple's minds when she fails to follow thru.

[dan_bgblue]

Bill regrets getting caught (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/01/politics/lynch-to-accept-guidance-from-fbi-on-clinton-email-probe/index.html)

[CitizenBBN]

Bill regrets getting caught (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/01/politics/lynch-to-accept-guidance-from-fbi-on-clinton-email-probe/index.html)

I love how both sides are saying "we didn't think anything of it but can see in hindsight how it might look bad" blah blah blah.

Seriously, a sitting President and a career person who has risen to be Attorney General had no idea going in that this would look bad? What morons believe this tripe?

they KNEW exactly how it would look, and did it b/c they thought no one would know. Since they would have clearly known going in just how bad it would look yet chose to do it then we can safely assume this was NOT some random happening that discussed grandkids, b/c both would know in advance what they were risking. So there had to be a reason big enough to take on that risk.

there is no way this wasn't planned and no way this wasn't about the investigation. Otherwise we have to assume two incredibly politically adept people with excellent political radar both had a complete brain lock on the issue at the same exact time.

Now, it could be that Bill just wanted to humanize things, create a dialog on which he could follow up later, rather than hash out details right then and there, but then we still have to assume Lynch is a complete idiot, and I doubt it. She has in her agreement for that position a signed statement not only that she won't have a conflict of interest but that she'll avoid actions that even give the APPEARANCE of a conflict. It's in the agreement she signs for that position.

No, they just didn't think they'd get caught. That's why it happened on a runway tarmac in Phoenix. Unfortunately for them a reporter figured it out and he's not so in the pocket of the leftist media that he kept his mouth shut.