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ColonelSteve
11-11-2012, 12:52 PM
I cant help but laugh...but if it somehow is proven to be true...I think I would leave

As of Saturday November 10, 2012, 15 States have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to create its own government.

States following this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York. These States have requested that the Obama Administration grant a peaceful withdrawal from the United States.

These petitions were filed just days after the 2012 Presidential election.

Louisiana was the first State to file a petition a day after the election by a Michael E. from Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next State to follow by a Micah H. from Arlington, Texas.

The government allows one month from the day the petition is submitted to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the Obama administration to consider the request.

The Texas petition reads as follows:

The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169. Many more States are expected to follow.

A petition is not searchable at WhiteHouse.gov until 150 signatures have been obtained. It is the originator's responsibility to obtain these signatures.

The Texas petition can be reviewed and/or signed by clicking here.

http://www.examiner.com/article/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-1

CitizenBBN
11-11-2012, 03:33 PM
Does that story have a link to where I sign the petition? As long as we can have warm water port access and the Mississippi it's doable. :)

dan_bgblue
11-11-2012, 08:13 PM
Yeppers I need a link to the petition. May even find a way to sign it 3 to 4 hundred times, although I am not sure we want Jersey to be a member of "The Real United States of America". With Indiana in the mix we even have Great Lakes access. Missouri needs to man up, as St Louis should be the Capital.

ColonelSteve
11-11-2012, 08:42 PM
OMG this is real...other sites are reporting this

This is what 1 petition says

This State under the United States Constitution and Federal Government has committed the following sins that require confession, and repentance pursuant unto a new Government under God:

i. Our rejection of God the Father and his mediatorial King, the Lord Jesus Christ, whose royal prerogative (Phil. 2:9-11, Dan. 2: 44-45, Dan. 7: 13-14, Rev. 1:5, Ps. 89:27, 1 Cor. 15:25, Luk. 22:29-30, Acts 5:29-31, Heb. 1:13, Acts 2: 29-35, Heb. 1: 8-9) has been treasonously rejected by our Constitution's Preamble (Which contradict Romans 13:1), Article 6 (Contradicts Exodus 18:21 ) and First Amendment of the Bill of Rights (A disestablishment principle utterly incompatible with the Bible and Christian History).

ii. Legal protection of idolatry and false worship within a nation that has been enlightened by the gospel, together with a refusal to establish the true reformed religion as the only established religion within that nation.

iii. Refusal to affirm in constitutional documents that God's moral law is the supreme law of the land (within a nation enlightened by the gospel), but to the contrary, the legal declaration of an immoral constitution to be the supreme law of the land.

iv. Inciting of racial agitation (Especially Black against White), through media and educational disinformation.

v. Legal protection of public blasphemy against the name of the Lord in all forms of media.

vi. Refusal to prohibit all unnecessary work on the Lord's Day.

vii. Subjecting the children to the evils of the Roman Catholic Church and their perverted rapist Priests without proper prosecution.

viii. Legal endorsement of the slaughter and murder of unborn children.

ix. Legal protection of gross immorality, sexual perversion and heinous pornography.

x. Habitual theft through unjust and excessive taxes through inflated paper currency and the violation of a man’s natural right to his wages for personal service.

xi. Our involvement with wars of conquest.

This will be accomplished by defensive war if necessary. This war is not offensive, but defensive; not by falling upon persons to take away their lives, but a defending of our Religion and ourselves from all unjust assaults which is allowable to all men (Gen.14,1 Sam. 14:44-45, Prov. 24:11-12, Luke 22:36). We must resist this wicked government. It is our duty (Psa. 94:16). We are informed by Scripture that God punishes sinful nations with war (2 Chron. 16:9, 2 Sam. 12:10). We are informed by 2 Kings 21 that God brought complete destruction upon Jerusalem because of the sins of their King Manasseh. God held the people liable for the sins of their Government! Jeremiah the prophet warned those who would murder him, “But know ye for certain, that if ye put me to death, ye shall surely bring innocent blood upon yourselves, and upon this city, and upon the inhabitants thereof: for of a truth the LORD hath sent me unto you to speak all these words in your ears.” (Jer. 26:15) In fear of almighty God we seek to repent of our sins that more judgment does not come upon us than already has.

We do not fear the reproach of man. As the apostles stated, "Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye. For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard." (Acts 4:18-20) We do not fear death, as the Lord Jesus Christ commanded, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Mat. 10:28) And we know that through much difficulty we shall prevail, "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death." (Rev. 12:11)

No doubt, our enemies will try to rise up puppet representatives among us, to lead us astray and discredit our movement. When an Anglo or Japhethite Protestant Christian people have demanded a land and a Christian Government for themselves, evil white men have risen up in their ranks to lead their people to offensive violence to justify the existence of a reactionary movement which the media has mounted to support against us. Therefore, to protect ourselves, let it be clear: WE VEHEMENTLY REJECT OFFENSIVELY VIOLENT AND MALICIOUS ACTIONS AND ATTITUDES TOWARDS PEOPLES OF OTHER ETHNICITIES AND PEOPLES OF OTHER RELIGIONS. ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH NEO-NAZI MOVEMENTS OR MALICIOUS KU KLUX KLAN GROUPS WE REJECT. AFTER OUR ESTABLISHMENT WE SEEK TO CONDUCT PEACE TREATIES AND COMMERCE WITH OUR BLACK AMERICAN FRIENDS AND OUR CATHOLIC FRIENDS.

The grievances which have brought us to this petition are bitter and if we are not careful can easily lead to malice and offensive violence. Let us never forget the wisdom of the Scriptures which says, "When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him" (Pro 16:7) and as the Lord Jesus Christ said, "But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil." (Luk. 6:35) May God grant this mercy to us with lawful assemblies and non-violent petitions to both our representatives and our fellow man.

Eligible Petitioners:

- Voters in the United States, who desire to become citizens of The Republic of Kentucky

- Voters who are Citizens of the State of Kentucky

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/kentucky-petition-for-secession.html

CitizenBBN
11-11-2012, 08:46 PM
This sort of stuff happens all the time. Obviously I wouldn't sign that particular one, but I'd probably sign one properly presented. It obviously won't happen so it becomes a form of protest like picketing, and that's perfectly OK. A statement of grievances.

dan_bgblue
11-11-2012, 08:54 PM
Dang it, I was hoping to see a document that could gain wide spread support Instead, I see a document resembling a Christian manifesto for secession. There is nothing wrong with the issuers of the petition doing so, it just will not gain the support needed.

ColonelSteve
11-11-2012, 08:57 PM
This sort of stuff happens all the time. Obviously I wouldn't sign that particular one, but I'd probably sign one properly presented. It obviously won't happen so it becomes a form of protest like picketing, and that's perfectly OK. A statement of grievances.

What exactly is so bad about that? It looks like it IS properly presented...actually if they are true to their word, especially from ending racial agitation then by all means, it's worth listening to...they do need to end the prohibition of marijuana, too many people are dying for nothing, use all the resources to find the real criminals, the ones distributing crack, meth, anything like that

ColonelSteve
11-11-2012, 09:00 PM
Dang it, I was hoping to see a document that could gain wide spread support Instead, I see a document resembling a Christian manifesto for secession. There is nothing wrong with the issuers of the petition doing so, it just will not gain the support needed.

It's worth listening to, you gotta understand, in Kentucky, if you dont go the Christian angle...youre not gonna be heard, honestly I think it is best they take this route, listen to other ideas and present it in a matter than even simpletons can understand, common sense approach can REALLY go a long way...again...this is just the beginning, I say it's worth signing, get it OUT THERE, and then work on the changes, that's what the US did before the revolution

Doc
11-11-2012, 11:04 PM
Dang it, I was hoping to see a document that could gain wide spread support Instead, I see a document resembling a Christian manifesto for secession. There is nothing wrong with the issuers of the petition doing so, it just will not gain the support needed.

Was this written by Ted Kaczynski?

Doc
11-11-2012, 11:05 PM
Sfw?????

ColonelSteve
11-12-2012, 06:53 PM
Oh wow...its up to 20 states now and the national media is starting to take notes...Texas already has over 30,000 votes which means the White House HAS to address this

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/secission-petitions-filed-20-states-190210006.html

cattails
11-14-2012, 02:14 PM
And you guys might have thought I was crazy when I brought this up before it happened. Is civil war possible? What happens to Social Security and Medi-Care? A lot of question to be answered.

CitizenBBN
11-14-2012, 10:21 PM
And you guys might have thought I was crazy when I brought this up before it happened. Is civil war possible? What happens to Social Security and Medi-Care? A lot of question to be answered.

Personally I hope we drive straight over that financial cliff and see what's at the bottom. This madness has to end one way or the other.

cattails
11-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Personally I hope we drive straight over that financial cliff and see what's at the bottom. This madness has to end one way or the other.


Chuck we don't have a lot of choices in this matter, the NRA is the one I'm worried about. I really don't think it will come to a civil war or our country dividing, but something has to give.

CitizenBBN
11-15-2012, 01:45 AM
Chuck we don't have a lot of choices in this matter, the NRA is the one I'm worried about. I really don't think it will come to a civil war or our country dividing, but something has to give.

I hadn't given it much thought till this thread, but thinking about it a split of the country does have certain advantages if we're talking about a "red state" nation that comprises the south, midwest, mountain states and Texas.

That nation could be energy independent, its military would therefore not have to be the world's policeman, we would cease to be a target of terrorism. All the benefits the US would have with true energy independence but is now unachievable b/c of the environmentalists. Wont' see a lot of votes against pipelines or drilling or coal in that group of states.

About the only thing it lacks is Pacific port access. Worth a thought though.