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ColonelSteve
10-27-2012, 01:26 PM
Good god almighty


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DnLdgAfX9tw

suncat05
10-27-2012, 03:44 PM
Ted Turner is a moron, and his wife is a Communist lover. They are both traitors to our country, no other way to see it.

BigBluePappy
10-27-2012, 04:18 PM
Hanoi Jane and Ted Turner are now divorced but I couldn't agree more; the fact that one US Soldier loses his life for ANY reason is not acceptable.

badrose
10-27-2012, 04:41 PM
He's a Humanist. Was Humanist of the Year several years back.

BigBluePappy
10-27-2012, 05:18 PM
1.
a person having a strong interest in or concern for human welfare, values, and dignity.
2.
a person devoted to or versed in the humanities.
3.
a student of human nature or affairs.
4.
a classical scholar.
5.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) any one of the scholars of the Renaissance who pursued and disseminated the study and understanding of the cultures of ancient Rome and Greece, and emphasized secular, individualistic, and critical thought.

Looked up the definition and having a hard time fitting him into this. Classical Scholar; maybe?

Hell, unless we are ignorant of our surroundings we are all #3.

suncat05
10-27-2012, 06:28 PM
I can think of a part of the human anatomy that he most likely resembles, and it has nothing to do with being a 'humanist'.

CitizenBBN
10-27-2012, 06:35 PM
Wow. Just wow.

Think CNN might have a slant when it was started by this guy and he married Hanoi Jane? I see "Faux News" attacked constantly on the basis that it's owned by Murdoch but not CNN which was founded and built by Turner.

he sees this as some grand theory, that suicide there proves the inherently good nature of Man, which of course supports the Leftist ideology that Man is inherently good and loving and will all come together in harmony and sing the Coke theme if we get rid of these nasty conservatives and militarists.

The fact that he sees the death of American soldiers as "terrific" b/c it supports his view of the nature of Man is sick and repugnant. If he wants to believe Man is inherently innocent and wonderful fine, but to find evidentiary support of it in the loss of American soldier's lives, however so lost, and to then term that support as "good" or "terrific" is offensive.

BTW, they aren't killing themselves b/c they're killing their fellow man and it makes them depressed. They're living in a s*** hole away from their families and their country, dealing with the same crap we did in Vietnam with 'allies' who are full of our enemies doing a job most there don't care if we do or not and without the commitment to do the job right and come home. They're doing it for all the reasons it's done in war, and none of them have to do with having to pull the trigger on the guy who just shot your buddy.

badrose
10-27-2012, 09:37 PM
1.
a person having a strong interest in or concern for human welfare, values, and dignity.
2.
a person devoted to or versed in the humanities.
3.
a student of human nature or affairs.
4.
a classical scholar.
5.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) any one of the scholars of the Renaissance who pursued and disseminated the study and understanding of the cultures of ancient Rome and Greece, and emphasized secular, individualistic, and critical thought.

Looked up the definition and having a hard time fitting him into this. Classical Scholar; maybe?

Hell, unless we are ignorant of our surroundings we are all #3.

Humanism is a body of philosophies and ethical perspectives that emphasize the value of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally place more importance on rational thought than on strict faith. During the Renaissance period in Western Europe humanist movements attempted to demonstrate the benefit of gaining learning from classical, pre-Christian sources, which had previously been frowned upon by the Roman Catholic Church. In modern times, many humanist movements have become strongly aligned with atheism, with the term Humanism often used as a byword for non-theistic beliefs about otherwise theistic or spiritual ideas such as meaning and purpose. The term humanism can be ambiguously diverse, and there has been a persistent confusion between the several, related uses of the term because different intellectual movements have identified with it over time.[1]

In philosophy and social science, humanism refers to a perspective that affirms some notion of a "human nature" (contrasted with anti-humanism). The word "humanist" derives from the 15th-century Italian term umanista describing a teacher or scholar of classical Greek and Latin literature and the ethical philosophy behind it (including the approach to the humanities).[2][3][2] In 1856, still before the word was associated with secularism, German historian and philologist Georg Voigt used humanism to describe Renaissance humanism, the movement that flourished in the Italian Renaissance to revive classical learning (this definition won wide acceptance among historians in many nations).[4] During the French Revolution, and soon after in Germany (by the Left Hegelians), humanism began to refer to philosophies and morality centred on human kind, without attention to any notions of the divine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism

The philosophy or life stance secular humanism (alternatively known by some adherents as Humanism, specifically with a capital H to distinguish it from other forms of humanism) embraces human reason, ethics, social justice and philosophical naturalism, whilst specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience or superstition as the basis of morality and decision making.[1][2][3]

It posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or a god. It does not, however, assume that humans are either inherently evil or innately good, nor does it present humans as being superior to nature. Rather, the humanist life stance emphasizes the unique responsibility facing humanity and the ethical consequences of human decisions. Fundamental to the concept of secular humanism is the strongly held viewpoint that ideology—be it religious or political—must be thoroughly examined by each individual and not simply accepted or rejected on faith. Along with this, an essential part of secular humanism is a continually adapting search for truth, primarily through science and philosophy. Many Humanists derive their moral codes from a philosophy of utilitarianism, ethical naturalism or evolutionary ethics, and some advocate a science of morality.

The International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU) is the world union of more than one hundred Humanist, rationalist, irreligious, atheistic, Bright, secular, Ethical Culture, and freethought organizations in more than 40 countries. The "Happy Human" is the official symbol of the IHEU as well as being regarded as a universally recognised symbol for those who call themselves Humanists. Secular humanist organizations are found in all parts of the world. Those who call themselves humanists are estimated to number between four and five million people worldwide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

BigBluePappy
10-28-2012, 12:59 PM
While I may not understand the full impact of him being "Humanist of the Year", I will have to respectfully disagree with his opinion on this; no loss of an American soldier is ever acceptable or a terrific thing.
Some may be heroic, but a good thing, no.

cattails
10-29-2012, 03:06 PM
Hanoi Jane. for me she is dead, I refuse to watch any of her movies as for Ted, what an ass.