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Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 11:28 AM
Who ya got? :)

Lohse vs Medlen on the hill

I'm hopinng Chipper is playing his last game :)

blue2ksr
10-05-2012, 12:00 PM
Me too, although I really like Chipper!

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 03:45 PM
I'm depressed, sitting in Birmingham.

My last gasp chance at going went out the window last night when my daughter called and told me about her Jeep overheating in Tuscaloosa. I was needed today to (possibly) get her, look at the Jeep, etc.

Turns out, Jeep is fine; mechanic said (maybe) small pinhole leak in radiator, nothing to worry about, gave it a flush and pressure test, and put in new antifreeze and factory sealant and said it was good to go. Also said for her to bring it by anytime and he'd check it for her, no charge. Love this mechanic we've used in Tuscaloosa. Total cost for what he did, including antifreeze, sealant, labor? $40.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 06:14 PM
Redbirds up 3-2 headed to the bottom of 4th.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 06:32 PM
Still 3-2 in the middle of the 5th.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 06:47 PM
Holliday homers. 4-2 going to the bottom of the 6th.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 06:50 PM
My Sirius/XM radio feed is apparently about 3 minutes behind live action. Read your post, THEN heard Holliday's HR lol.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 06:56 PM
Lohse out now. Lance Lynn trying to hold down the fort.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 06:57 PM
My Sirius/XM radio feed is apparently about 3 minutes behind live action. Read your post, THEN heard Holliday's HR lol.

Have to post spoiler alerts now lol

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:00 PM
Quick on the trigger with the pitching change in my opinion, but that is why Matheny makes the big bucks now.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:03 PM
Freese just won't die at the plate

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 07:13 PM
Have to post spoiler alerts now lol

lol-you really may have to. I don't mind.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 07:13 PM
Sent him on contact; love being aggressive!

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:14 PM
Comedy of bravo errors this inning.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:16 PM
LaRussa at times could be a stick in the mud. I like they way we're playing now. Every run counts.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:17 PM
6-2 headed to the stretch.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 07:27 PM
Executing like they have not executed all season, if you ask me (not that I have followed them *that* well this season. I obviously have not.) Anyway, I'm just agreeing with Mike Shannon.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:30 PM
Lohse had some rhythm. Broke that with a pitching change.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 07:30 PM
6-3, but ok with trading the out for the run there.

7 outs to go.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:33 PM
Whew

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 07:36 PM
Thank you for the "Whew." Chipper is just coming up to bat for me.

I think the "Whew" is for Chipper, I hope.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 07:37 PM
Yep, it was.

Whew (for me, this time.)

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:40 PM
Awwww Yadi.....DP ball.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 07:55 PM
Just wow.....I can't believe that..

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 07:58 PM
I hope that's "just" the dropped fly ball.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 07:58 PM
Wait--infield fly rule.

Whew. I hope.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 08:01 PM
That's ridiculous. I'm glad I'm not there to give Atlanta my money.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 08:13 PM
I'm a fan of the team that benefited from tha call, but that call was BS. Infield fly has to be called immediately, not a second before the fly hits the turf. Awful, NFL replacement referee type of call.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 08:18 PM
I've seen some baseball oddities, but that was surreal.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 08:24 PM
3 outs away

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 08:37 PM
Redbirds win 6-3. Sweet win, bitter loss for the Bravos.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 08:39 PM
Mike Shannon said both the 3rd base umpire and the home plate umpire called it. Did TV replays show BOTH umpires with their arms in the air?

I've seen a .gif of where it was located in the outfield, and I don't have a (huge) problem with that. The ball was in the air a long time, and the rule only requires an infielder to handle the ball with ordinary effort.

Maybe a bad call, but the worst part of it is if the umpire called it late. Should've been an early call. I'd be interested in seeing whether the home plate umpire called it early, or a 3rd base umpire called it early, or what.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 08:48 PM
Likely changed at least one run in the game. Just a late call. Too late.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 08:51 PM
Definition:

If a fair fly ball is in play, and in the umpire's judgment it is catchable by an infielder with ordinary effort, the umpire shall call "infield fly" (or more often, "infield fly, batter's out"); the batter will be out regardless of whether the ball is actually caught in flight.

From wiki (I know, not the best source, but quick--and correct)--

For example, if an infielder retreats to the outfield in an effort to catch a fly ball with ordinary effort, the infield fly rule is invoked, even if an outfielder ultimately caught the ball, and even if no infielder attempted to make a play on the ball.

The protest will fail because it's a judgment call.

An infield fly is a judgment call and may be declared by any umpire on the field. It may not be appealed or overturned by any other umpire.

dan_bgblue
10-05-2012, 08:55 PM
Mike Shannon said both the 3rd base umpire and the home plate umpire called it. Did TV replays show BOTH umpires with their arms in the air?

I just saw the replay and the answer is yes. The outfield umpire signaled for it just a split second before the 3rd base umpire did. It honestly looked like the 3rd base umpire saw the other call it and decided to call the same thing. It looked like the outfield ump waited until the Cards short stop kinda settled under the ball before he made the call

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 08:55 PM
Likely changed at least one run in the game. Just a late call. Too late.

That's a big issue. I'd be livid if it was late. MLB rules REQUIRE the umpire to call it immediately. I'd still like to see which umpires called it to see if ONE of them called it quickly, and the other(s) followed suit.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 08:56 PM
Mike Shannon said both the 3rd base umpire and the home plate umpire called it. Did TV replays show BOTH umpires with their arms in the air?

I just saw the replay and the answer is yes. The outfield umpire signaled for it just a split second before the 3rd base umpire did. It honestly looked like the 3rd base umpire saw the other call it and decided to call the same thing. It looked like the outfield ump waited until the Cards short stop kinda settled under the ball before he made the call

Both were still very late, though, Dan?

That call HAS to be made near-immediately, or certainly should be.

dan_bgblue
10-05-2012, 08:58 PM
Way to late. Call was made maybe a second before the ball hit the ground at most

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 08:59 PM
Ugh.

That's awful. They have every right to be upset. Every right.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 09:01 PM
It's a judgement call. Rarely do you see an infield fly rule not called as soon as the plate ump lifts out of his stance after the hit. It fit the definition by rule, and would have been much better if Kozma had just caught the damn ball. Problem solved.
When no call is made, runners advancing it looks suspect, foolish to call it so late.

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 09:03 PM
I hate that. I'm obviously not a Braves fan, and I'm a Cardinals fan, but that's just plumb awful.

Now that I think about it, the radio broadcast never called the infield fly rule, so OBVIOUSLY it had to be extremely late for them to totally miss it, rather than reassure me and the other listeners.

Awful.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 09:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Z5MIaISrU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Darrell KSR
10-05-2012, 09:15 PM
Thanks, CITH.

Announcers are full of bleh saying it was too deep. SS had the ball, he just turned away because he thought the LF was going to catch it. Obviously catchable by MLB infielder with ordinary effort.

That's not the rub. The rub is the delay in call, which is outrageous.

Catonahottinroof
10-05-2012, 09:22 PM
On to St Louis to host the Nationals for 2. No sense in dwelling on the call now, it's over and done.
Glad to be defending the World Series title.