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Catonahottinroof
10-01-2013, 09:36 AM
I tire of political blame checkers being played in Washington. Yes, checkers, neither side has the wherewithal or testicles to play chess...

A mere 7 years ago, Senator Obama was a debt ceiling "hawk"

March 16, 2006 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE S2237-2238:

“Mr. OBAMA. Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem.

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to
$8.6 trillion. That is ‘‘trillion’’ with a ‘‘T.’’ That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and
health security they have counted on.

Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans—a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

But we are not doing that. Despite repeated efforts by Senators CONRAD and FEINGOLD, the Senate continues to reject a return to the commonsense Pay-go rules that used to apply. Previously, Pay-go rules applied both to increases in mandatory spending and
to tax cuts. The Senate had to abide by the commonsense budgeting principle of balancing expenses and revenues. Unfortunately, the principle was abandoned, and now the demands of budget discipline apply only to spending.

As a result, tax breaks have not been paid for by reductions in Federal spending, and thus the only way to pay for them has been to increase our deficit to historically high levels and borrow more and more money. Now we have to pay for those tax breaks plus
the cost of borrowing for them. Instead of reducing the deficit, as some people claimed, the fiscal policies of this administration and its allies in Congress will add more than $600 million in debt for each of the next 5 years.

That is why I will once again cosponsor the Pay-go amendment and continue to hope that my colleagues will return to a smart rule that has worked in the past and can work again.

Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours.

Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit”

dan_bgblue
10-01-2013, 06:23 PM
It is all a game to politicians, not just the president. They appear to have no core values and will pontificate on either side of an issue because of party lines, if it aids them in getting reelected, getting them elected to a higher office, or lines their pockets with money. Unfortunately the electorate, in large part, keeps putting them back in office to do it all over again.

DanISSELisdaman
10-02-2013, 08:28 AM
It is all a game to politicians, not just the president. They appear to have no core values and will pontificate on either side of an issue because of party lines, if it aids them in getting reelected, getting them elected to a higher office, or lines their pockets with money. Unfortunately the electorate, in large part, keeps putting them back in office to do it all over again.



Absolutely Dan! And this is the scary part.

Catonahottinroof
10-02-2013, 08:49 AM
The irritating thing about then Senator Obama's speech is, wait for it....he was absolutely correct.

This situation didn't just occur on the watch of Obama, Bush II, Clinton... the first years where the federal budgets began to accrue debt were in the Nixon administration. In 1981, Regan had the debt ceiling pushed to 1 Trillion dollars, and by the time he exited office, it was 3 trillion. Bush 1 and Clinton doubled that over 12 years, Bush II doubled that in 8 years and Obama is working on doubling that in 8 more.

Listen to your own advice Mr. President, you are creating a climate where folks won't work due to being given so much already, and those who do work are becoming the minority, and those who have the financial means to employ people will not because of the looming tax burden you are about to drop on them.

KeithKSR
10-03-2013, 02:08 PM
$17 trillion is not the real debt, the real debt is much higher and includes trillions in unfunded liabilities that go years into the future. Money is owed to those who are young and currently paying into a social security system that burns through their retirement funds faster than they accrue.

Over a decade ago the media derided Bush II when he wanted Social Security placed in a "lockbox." In other words is should be set aside and not used for other purposes. Now Social Security has become an unfunded liability, meaning all the money has been spent.